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Kitase and Nomura explain why Final Fantasy VII Remake is a multi-part series By Red Makuzawa on December 7, 2015 at 1:13 AM

Famitsu and Dengeki have both posted interviews with Tetsuya Nomura and Yoshinori Kitase today about the Final Fantasy VII Remake, confirming that they are outsourcing the project with another developer, talking more about the battle system, why they’re splitting the game into episodes and more.

Final Fantasy VII Remake is a multi-part series. Please tell us more about this decision.

Kitase: “The idea that a remake of Final Fantasy VII would not fit into a single release was there from the very beginning. We still can’t share more information about its multiple parts, but please look forward to future announcements.”

Nomura: “If we dedicated our time to a single release, parts of it would become summarized. We’d have to cut some parts, and additional parts would come in few, so rather than remake the game as a full volume, we decided to do multiple parts.

Kitase: “As you can see in the trailer, we showed Sector 1 and Sector 8, but in those areas alone, I think you can see a lot of density. When you’re remaking the entirety of the original version in that quality, it’s not possible to fit it all in one release.”

How will the battle system work?

Kitase: “Rather than a command-based battle ensuing when you encounter an enemy, we’re aiming for a seamless active battle, as you can see in the trailer.”

Nomura: “Regarding the battle speed and tempo, for the sake of a stress-free battle, we want to do something on the level of Dissidia Final Fantasy. As far as the degree of action goes, it’s Dissidia Final Fantasy, then Kingdom Hearts, then Final Fantasy VII Remake. There won’t be any actions that require a technique. By using the new system, we want to do action battles while also being able to fight while thinking strategically.”

What about the elements of the original battle system?

Nomura: “In the end, it’s based on Final Fantasy VII, so elements like the ATB gauge and Limit Breaks will appear with new ways to be used. Please look forward to how this game will evolve through the remake.”

Will the story be adjusted at all?

Nomura: “In addition to delving into these episodes more deeply, we’re preparing a number of mechanisms and such. To those who played the original version will know the important parts and understand the story from the beginning to the end. Also for these people, I hope that they can be surprised once again.”

Kitase: “I don’t want the remake to end as something nostalgic. I want to get the fans of the original version excited.We’ll be making adjustments to the story with this feeling in mind.”

 

Here’s a summary of some additional information from the interview translated by Rin.

  • Nomura: If we make the characters real, they’ll look like real people and no one will recognize them, so we’re aiming to balance.
  • Nomura: Advent Children models are too old, so they’ve been refining the graphics and balancing reality and deformation.
  • Aside from the CG shown at the beginning of the trailer, everything is in real-time. You can alter the camera angle during the train scene.
  • Cloud’s appearance has to partially to do with the lighting and his pale skin. Nojima had said Cloud’s sickly appearance is brilliant.
  • Square Enix is working with CyberConnect 2 to develop the Final Fantasy VII Remake.
  • Cross-dressing scene will be included. Nomura has yet to work on the design, however.
  • Final Fantasy VII Remake is completely different from Crisis Core’s battle system. Not as action-y as Dissidia Arcade or KH but closer to that style.
  • The battle speed they’re aiming for is Dissidia Arcade’s. The battles we saw in the trailer are kind of like a standard to aim for.
  • Nomura can’t go into details about the battle system, but he said it’s important to note that the ATB gauge turns red. Something significant.

Via: NeoGAF.

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  • GU111H

    I feel a little better about the battle system…

  • Wazi the pa

    This is amazing news. The battle system sounds like something that’ll please old and new fans at the same time. It’s a completely new thing altogether!

    And the reason for the game being multi-part sounds AMAZING; more dense content, high quality in each part. What more could you ask for?

    This game is gonna be interesting.

  • flower234

    Ok some of my worries have been put to rest but Idk if I’m completely sold yet. I still want to know how long these “episodes” are and when they’re going to be released.

  • SNK

    “Episodic” can be confusing. I suggest you change it for “multi-plat” since we don’t know yet if it’ll be episodic (like Telltale games) or like the Mass Effect games.

  • Wazi the pa

    Oh yeah definitely. When it comes to RPGs, there’s got to be a wealth of content to play through that’ll last for dozens of hours. And considering that the remake will be a multi-part series, each title has got to deliver that.

  • thetrooper1989

    Okay, some of my fears have been alleviated. If they have Midgar be a big hub, dense with NPCs and sidequests, places to explore, i’m perfectly fine with it being episodic. As long as there is still an overworld that is interconnected with each and every cities.

    I’m still confused how they’re going to deal with stats and leveling up. Will it be something like this?

    Episode 1 – The max lvl cap is 20 and you can only unlock a few skills, materia etc.
    Episode 2- Raise lvl cap to 40 and you can continue from their.

    I really hope breaking it into episodes doesn’t mean a loss of an overworld and traversing in a linear corridor.

  • Nemesis

    There, better. Now we know what they mean.

  • César H. Sandoval

    How is it more “impossible” to make just one full game now than it was back then when they first made FFVII on the PS1? Sound slike BS excuses to me, modern industry really has loss talent to this point, were a game with content and scale four generations old, is aparently impossible to achive nowadays, graphices may be prettier, but the products of the new generations really have gone souless.

  • Sathil

    I’d assume, hopefully, that it would be substantial enough to tide us over til the next one. But honestly, I don’t worry about vague announcements because clearly, they’re not done with the details on their decisions.

  • GBuster

    Yeah, because you are a computer programmer and obviously knows what it takes to produce a game of this magnitude.

  • Vayu Purana

    broken into episodes…….I don’t care anymore, they fucked it up with not having a full game

    episodic games are for indie devs that are too damn broken to put out a full game, not triple A developers, tho Capcom has done this with their resident evil games too……..whatever money is money to them, dumbass FF7 fans will still buy this shit piece by piece anyways so its a win for them

  • Did you even read to article? There’s a REASON. It’s a big ass game!! That’s like calling them broke or stupid for making the original PS1 game on 3 discs. Just wow…

  • KazeJoestar

    “We are adjusting the story-line with this idea in mind.” Oh boy. Not too crazy about the sound of that. I mean I am fine with new additions to the story but don’t jack up an already very shaky canon. The last thing we need is forced plot changes that will only lead to more plot holes. That being said I will remain very cautiously optimistic about this whole thing from now on because with the episodic crap I don’t even know anymore.

  • I can totally buy it. If you compare the fidelity of games from the 90’s to those today, there’s a HUUUUUGE difference. It’s not so much a programming problem as it’s simply about scope of content created. The requirements are clear: FF7R must look amazing by today’s standards, while level designs must facilitate action combat as shown in the trailer. If you look at FF7, the environments were basically a series of prerendered background with set screen spaces the characters could move around in. Character themselves were blocky with very few animations. Combat was removed from that and had its own, limited, battle screen.

    If you just look at the jump in asset creation work that goes from merely making a prerendered background scene to the 3D environments, with the individual objects littered around, the lighting, and the optimization work that must go into that, it’s like night and day.

    Multiply that for every area I touched upon and more. Modern games development has become more and more complex, with a ton of more moving parts that must be coordinated and tuned so that production can move forward smoothly.

    I’m not trying to say that Square is right in making the game episodic, but I can understand the difficulty in making it a single release. If you dismiss all that and say that because they made FF7 in the first place, so they should be able to make FF7R just as easily, you’re being very ignorant.

    I don’t for a minute buy the claim that “back in the old days, game developers were more talented”. That’s just insulting.

  • Geno

    Hey GBuster, you’re here too! Thought it’s just Kpop and all.

    Anyway, I agree with you. They made the FF7 game into 3 discs, so splitting the game into episodes makes sense. I’d rather have that and stay true to the original than compress it and lose some of the things that made it special.

  • You quoted part of what was said. They play to add things, yeah, but they’re meant to surprise the original players as well as new ones. And what part of fitting more in each episodic release as opposed to all of it being pushed into one disc did you not understand? They want the game to be HUGE. Probably bigger than it was years ago when it had to be split up into 3 discs on the PS1.

  • stevenm281

    so it means that FF15 wont be that big of a game then if it can fit on one disc

  • No, it’s clearly a big game based on the demo alone. It’s just that the VIIR will be even bigger.

  • GBuster

    Gamer to the core. But I make time for Crayon Pop of course 🙂

    As for the FF7 Remake, what bothers me is that the gamers got their remake, but are now complaining that it is going to be different in most aspects. Of course it will be, it’s a re-imagining of the original game we all love. Too much irony in this.

    Simple fact: if you want to play the game with updated graphics, get the HD remastered version.

  • KazeJoestar

    Sorry it’s late and I’m tired as hell but I still think releasing it episodically is stupid. Why can’t they simply use multiple discs and still give us one full game like the original? Waiting for it should be no problem.

  • Raistlarn

    The original PS1 game was on 3 discs because the CD only held so much data, but the Blu Ray discs hold between 25 – 128 GB per disc. So they should be able to fit the game on around 3 discs even with all the additional content. In other words this to me is nothing but a money grab on SE’s part, which removes any desire I have ever had for a new and upgraded version of FF7.

  • Maybe they’ll release it as one big physical disc with all the episodes in it like they did with Life is Strange? I would still buy it again if they did that, too. XD

  • Cody Ren

    Would anyone be interested in a battle system where depending on what’s highlighted occurs? For example, if you have “Attack” highlighted, Cloud will automatically start attacking with his weapon. From there you can you manually adjust who he is attacking.

    So, maybe with magic a further window opens, and you select the available magic attack you want to start using.

    The ATB guage can determine how often you’re allowed to switch between options, or how often magic attacks occur?

    Anyway, that’s kinda what I get the feeling of when I see the gameplay footage.

  • KazeJoestar

    Well for one thing I will not be touching this until every single episode is released in one package sometime in 2020. No way am I playing a part of it then having to stop and wait months on end just to move on. Not to mention the horrid possibilities of them limiting exploration in the overworld and level caps in between episodes.

  • Hey, to each his own. That’s obviously an option, of course. Even if they kept it digital, they could possibly bundle the eps up or something? It’ll probably be a huge file, though if a disc can’t handle it. But yeah, those two features I’m a tad concerned about as well.

  • Have you considered the possibility that it might even take up more space than that? I’m not saying it will, just the possibility. But then again, you don’t have to get it if you don’t want to. But to complain about SE being money hungry and for people to complain about them being too broke to make good games is a real paradox don’t you think? I don’t mind funding companies I like.

  • Billy Jackson

    I believe there’s many considerations other than the size of FFVII that lead to this episodic split. The additional content, time and budget are to say the least, then there’s a bunch of considerations from a direction standpoint, like the flow of the new version and other stuff we have no idea about.

  • I don’t understand why everyone’s flipping out over the episodic release. This is way, they only have to focus on one small bit at a time before releasing the next and it’ll all be done at the same time eventually but we’ll at least get to play (part of) it sooner. So, if it were to release within 4 years time, by the first two or 1,5 years, they would’ve released the first part and from there you would make up your mind if you want to follow up with it or not. Eventually the final product will be the same. The ones that win are us. But I guess ppl will complain about anything nowadays…

  • Shayne Martin

    I agree completely with you waveplay.I am a 3D Artist and I know how much work it takes; and to remake the massive world of final fantasy 7 (I am a fan boy) would take not only years but tons and tons of space. you have to think only so many polys can be in each scene and keep fps balanced thats not including the lighting, textures/materials, flow of animation and everything on scene moving and actively rendering all at the same time. I was pissed off at first to, but I had to sit down and think about it. The world would end first if we wanted to get this game out all in one disc or at one time. As long as they do it right and don’t limit the player anymore than they did in the original and don’t charge an arm and a leg for it and add new content and episodes in a reasonable time frame im ok with it. As long as this game meets our standards (the fans of the original) and excels what we thought could happen then I can die happy lol. On a serious note though everyone just needs to be pataint and wait to here what square has to say

  • I doubt it would take that long. The game is waaaay more finished than we think. Ever since they release the first demo at the E3, you know? That being said, I do agree with you. Everyone needs to just cool down and give it a chance.

  • Squalllionhart

    whatever they do they have to make it seamless. by the time all the “episodes” are out it should feel like one full game and not something that had periodic releases

  • Miqote

    Well he gave a very good reason as to why they are doing it. It’s not like you’ve ever made a game in YOUR life. Nobody is a dumbass for buying the game if they want to. So why don’t get over yourself?

  • Shayne Martin

    Agreed as long as they put there into it to make it what it should be

  • Billy Jackson

    Unless I’m mistaken you need a special kind of Blu-ray drive to read discs >50Gb, I doubt any of the consoles are capable.

    The number of discs the game fits on has nothing to do with this though. They could easily cut and compress data to fit onto 1-2 discs and release it all at once. But with SE working on FFXV, KH3 and god knows what other unannounced projects right now, you would have to wait a very long time to see a fully completed remake. This way fans can start playing earlier, new content can be added or content from other VII side stories can be added, they don’t have to try tape so much content together into a single consistent package and SE make a little extra cash to fund new development. I see nothing but wins here.

  • I remember back in the day, when asked, Kitase would ALWAYS say as his number 1 reason for not doing the remake that “the scale of the things and work that needs to go into it is just too massive”. So it’s completely understandable that they can’t do it all in one go! Eventually it will all be 1 game anyway, so whoever can’t be bothered with the episodes can just wait and buy it then, geez…

  • AliasAlterego

    The original game only fit into 3 discs because 80% of it was pre-rendered backgrounds.

    The original game was a bunch of JPEGs. This one is completely rendered in full time.

    The technological comparison you’re making is completely batshit insane and doesn’t make a lick of sense.

  • Shayne Martin

    Exactly lol

  • Chris

    Here is a novel idea, Lets see here… a blueray disk holds what 50 gigs right? How about not making it episodic and releasing it on 3 disks LIKE THE ORIGINAL!

  • AliasAlterego

    I’ll reiterate what I said to another commenter:

    The original game only fit into 3 discs because 80% of it was pre-rendered backgrounds. If the whole game was 3D, it’d take over 9 discs (considering a fully rendered level is about three times the size of a JPEG, which, actually it’s more than that) just to put all of the content in the game, disregarding music files and sound effects, which also take a considerable amount of disc space.

    The original game was a bunch of JPEGs. This one is completely rendered in full time and, unlike the original, in addition to music and sound effects, it also has voice acting.

    The technological comparison you’re making is completely batshit insane and doesn’t make a lick of sense.

  • HalfLucan

    Why not make 3x as much money?
    /s

  • Chris

    I know right! Someone needs to tell these companys that my teets are hurting from getting milked so damn hard. thanks lol but i will stick to the original that i already own and can play in 1080p on my emulator

  • HalfLucan

    Look… I’m not playing £150!!! to play a remake of FF7
    That’s it.
    Screw the “SE needs money” argument
    Screw the “we cant fit it on 1 disk” argument

    Go bankrupt… PLEASE
    But not before 15 comes out.

  • Chris

    what he was really saying was… Hahaha fools, we are already redesigning the game and adding content in order to milk you guys because the original wasnt able to do that. see there is your new content lol. if episode 1 comes out anytime in the next year, then you already know that production started early in the ps3 lifecycle.

  • HalfLucan

    I’ve never played 7 (played crisis core tho – loved it)
    But that £10 for the port on the PS4 is looking mighty fine right about now.

  • Chris

    No this is a terrible idea. eposodic games like minecraft are ok. a well established already proven game NO. Just another greedy company milking the golden cow

  • Chris

    the original i so amazing. worth the 10 bucks. I hate to see them raping and killing the game like this. Hell go to the thrift store and find a psx and buy the original on psx. even better that way square enix cannot profit on it anymore.

  • Chris

    you can even download it and play it on an emulator.

  • Urgh… I wish you people could get an idea about how creating a game works. I understand your disappointment (although it’s a bit of an overreaction to jump at every single detail -Cloud looks to skinny, Barret has glasses, they changed the battle system, blah-), but eventually you’re gonna have to get over it. You don’t like the episodes, you can get the whole thing when it’s done. Nothing changes!

  • We don’t know how much each episode will cost or even how many there will be yet, you know? And like I mentioned before, the original had to be separated into 3 discs as well, so it’s really quite similar, except for the waiting time between the other episodes that’s inevitable. I would rather play a piece of a very detailed and a “complete” part of a whole, than a whole “finished” yet buggy game.

  • HalfLucan

    Tempted. I will be definitely watching lets plays for the altruists who fork up the money to do it. Heck i might even turn off Adblock when i do.

    The PSN trophies might sway me tho (for the port)

  • Justice V

    I’m hoping the addition of things just means it’ll add in the bits Nojima wrote and added in to Crisis Core and stuff like that. A little more fleshed out with the flashbacks of when cloud was just an infantryman, the experiments, Zack, more dialogue between the characters that wasn’t in the original since it will be voice acted now and can be spoken while randomly walking around. Etc.

  • Chris

    first, it was really 2 disks. the third disk was for the final boss battle basicly
    second, to celebrate the game rerelease, put it on multiple blueray disks,
    third, square; ea; activision; capcom; konami all have proven that the only thing that they are interested in the money.

    Is FFXV not going to be a big game too? How come that title isnt in episodes?
    It is an excuse to make gamers take it up the bum. how many times are these companys going to con players?

  • How the hell do you know how much it’s gonna cost? Tell us all what you’re using to see the future so we can all answer our questions.

  • Justice V

    Starcraft II is episodic. I would call Blizzard a Triple A dev, more or less.

  • Exactly! I totally agree. This is a perfect opportunity to actually rework the new additions to the story that have been established in other games into the original story so it can flow more.

  • Chris

    FF7 was not designed for trophies. it was made when gamers actually socialized in person and showed off their game saves to each other. I get that your a bit younger than i, but gaming was truly a better experience before hollywood bought out the gaming industry

  • Here’s a quick solution to your problems, so that mean gaming corporations don’t take advantage of you anymore:

    STOP BUYING VIDEO GAMES!!!

  • They were going to put it in episodes. VIIR will just literally be that much bigger. Let the game reach its full potential with their plans right now. I guarantee that all your distrust will be for naught will be eliminated once you actually play the game. Complaining about it now isn’t helping or harming anything right now.

  • Chris

    lol i dont. I pirate first then i pay when i run across a game that is worth the money. if the game isnt good i stop playing and get rid of it and move on.

  • Julio Emanuel Soto Cruz

    Chris think about it calmly. Right now a full blu ray game costs $60. Now we all know that FF 7 has more 100 – 150 hours if you do everything. There are not that many games that have that much content and the ones that do dont have high end graphics. Look at fall out and Xenoblade X, both games have huge amounts of hours and the graphics are not up to par. Considering this and the fact that they want to add even more content means that this will be a 200+ hours game. Now that means that they obviously need to split it in various disc that would mean that this game if sold together it would be easily $120 – $150 and there would be little profit from this. it is just wise to do it this way because in terms of content and hours of gameplay we will have more than enough so quit complaining. Why do you think there isn’t a single game that has multi disc yet. Production for one game now costs millions, i doubt they could sell a multi disc game and charge $60 you are just being greedy.

  • Chris

    Im sorry but do you work for them or something? all of these publishers have been screwing us for years now… FF7 is a game that is close to many of our hearts and they are raping us with it now. and yes gamers speaking out and not putting up with it anymore is going to change things. this is not a movie, and cannot be treated like it mockingjay part 2. hollywood bought their way into gaming and are killing it. wake up millennials!

  • Justice V

    Dunno. I wouldn’t think there’d be a level cap, but just like in the original you can grind a lot in the beginning but enemies give such low XP that it makes it almost futile once you get past a certain level. Would make the most sense to have a max level idea internally. So players can grind to said level (let’s say 20), but then they would need 1000 xp to level up to 21, and enemies only give you 10xp each in the farthest area you can reach. So you technically could grind away to level 99, but it would take forever. That’s what I would do if I was designing it.

  • No, I’m as much a fan as I think you are. But I am just willing to give it a chance. Stop prejudging the game. It’s not out yet! And with the trailer alone, it looks very promising to me at least. Just wait until they make a bundle release or combine it all or something, cuz I’m surely getting it at the release date.

  • HalfLucan

    Ah, fair enough to those who were able to 100% something without that extrinsic motivation.

    In my experience tho, “gamers socializing” amounts to a pissing contest. I like to platinum games as a way of expressing my commitment to it, its less about whether or not others will see it.

  • Good on ya!

  • Chris

    no you millennials need to wake up. I will not give them my hard earned money anymore. But they have now guaranteed one thing… It will get pirated 😉

  • Justice V

    Multi-plat would make people think that it’s going to release on multiple systems though. Multi-release is a little less confusing but could also be confused with releasing on multiple platforms, episodes, or just regions.

  • Julio Emanuel Soto Cruz

    Kaze think about it calmly. Right now a full blu ray game costs $60. Now we all know that FF 7 has more 100 – 150 hours if you do everything. There are not that many games that have that much content and the ones that do dont have high end graphics. Look at fall out and Xenoblade X, both games have huge amounts of hours and the graphics are not up to par. Considering this and the fact that they want to add even more content means that this will be a 200+ hours game. They obviously need to split it in various disc which would mean that this game if sold together it would be easily $120 – $150 and there would be little profit from this. it is just wise to do it this way because in terms of content and hours of gameplay we will have more than enough. Why do you think there isn’t a single game that has multi disc yet? Production for one game now costs millions, i doubt they could sell a multi disc game and charge $60.

  • Chris

    thats the thing though. ff7 remake will not be out untill they release the final episode meaning it is not the full game coming out. It isnt even a game that can be well split into episodes without losing the ability to explore and go places at anytime. Have fun being in line by yourself lol.

  • HalfLucan

    If it costs £50 in total like any other game, i will be fine with it. I can just wait and buy/play all the parts at once…

    But its a cash grab and they will be milking your blue balls hard!

    BS is “disk space” the reason its episodic. They could easily sell it with a few disks (if blue rays cost so much, up the price by a few bucks) or it could be sold with a mandatory 100gb update.

  • Yeah, by myself with millions of other people. Not that I care. I would buy it even if I was the only one. You got issues, man. You don’t have to get it, fine. But we will. Hopefully you don’t suffer from “Fear of Missing Out”…

  • Chris

    lol back in the day it didnt turn into pissing contests like trophys and achevements are today. ff7 is one of those games that is damn hard to 100% you would have to put a good 200-300 at least to 100% it. and that was only if you could find everything and or made the right choices at certain points. it wasnt a half assed game like they put out today.

  • Just leave the shit alone. Wait for the game (or parts) to be released. All you’re saying is speculation. I, for one, will be willing to buy the game no matter what format it’s in. You don’t have to buy it at all, and then you can save all of your… “Blue ball milk” or whatever you’re talking about.

  • Chris

    yeah look around the web man. real fans of this game will not bite. Lmao i already own the legit version of the game… not this fake ass episodic version. Fear of missing out? LOL again ive played the game. and am currently playing it on my psx. im good on this shit. your just another stupid millennial that has no idea how the real world works and the consequences there in. I do have issues though. i was raped when i was a kid. you called it

  • Good for you. 🙂 You’re a BONE-afied nut.

  • Chris

    Damn right good on me… i wont pay for these half assed broken ass games until they are complete and fixed.

  • Like a true millennial, you’re sitting on your fat ass commenting about videogames on a computer. Why don’t you bring out your stone tablet and chisel from your childhood, then if today is so bad?

  • Chris

    lets be honest the game isnt going to be any larger than ffXV. It will fit on one blueray

  • HalfLucan

    That much is true – the good ol days where something was a complete game xD, ah man, the feels, this shit is really happening 🙁

    I remember getting game tips from Magazines

  • Chris

    Um any good games come out lately? Halo 5 blows, fallout 4 you give gandolf a gun, farcry 3 4 primal all the same shit, assassins creed all the same and even come with the same problems that never got fixed… Just cause 3 disaster it goes on and on and on… wake up.

  • Bzzt. I don’t play ANY of that shit. Try again.

  • Chris

    and the cheat codes in the back of the magazine too lol.

  • Julio Emanuel Soto Cruz

    Lol ur just blind man. There isn’t a single game out there thats higher than 150 hours of pure content and FFXV wont be the exception and they want to add more to said content so in conclusion your blind.

  • Chris

    i named all the games that have come out recently… bloodbourne? boring, oh wait you play all the remasters from the previous gen right?! Games are released incomplete (with the missing part still on the disk untill you pay again to unlock it) and broken. If you dont play any of these games, then you must not play very many games if any at all. clearly im not the one that is a BONE-afied nut

  • HalfLucan

    So Blue Balls is the ball ache you get when you haven’t come in a while – in this case I’m using it as a metaphor for the 20 years that fans have been waiting, for the FF7 remake.

    In which case, fans such as yourself will give SE all of your semen to alleviate that tension even if it means taking a finger in the a** for it.

    Here’s a crazy idea… Release the game all at once?

  • HA! You idiot. I don’t play that either. I’ll have you guess what games I play. Hmmm, oh, how is it that I don’t play any of those games you mentioned, yet I still go practically broke buying next gen games every year… Ohhh this is a tricky one, huh~? >:) Go away, kid. You’re bothering me.

  • Chris

    no man i understand business is all. I understand what goes into making a game as well. as a matter of fact, they are saving so much time since the main story board is and has been complete for almost 2 decades. I also understand that the game probably has been in production during the ps3’s life cycle as they say they have said it will take 10 years to remake this game (which they have said in the past) then this rings true. otherwise, we wont see the conclusion of the episodes until the ps5 in which case they will remaster the remake because the ps5 wont be backwards compatible with the ps4 (or it will be just like ps2 games are on the ps4 meaning that you once again will have to repurchase the game) how do you maximize profit, i think i hit the nail on the head.

  • Yeah, I would give all of my semen to SE… If I had any. You’re funny. I’ll take the game because it’s pretty and it looks awesome. What ever happened to that? Wanting to play a game because it’s interesting? Ohh blasphemy! Why would anyone do that!? Maybe you’re too old to be playing videogames. You’re thinking waaaaaaay too hard about a friggin’ child’s hobby. 😐

  • Chris

    ive basically named all of the “next gen” games… your the dumbass giving your money away!

  • Mark D

    Everyone is complaining about the new battle system, changes to the story, and the episodic concept since the game won’t be able to fit on one disk. Screw you guys, I’m down for it, FFVII is Square-Enix’s creation, so they can do what they want to it, I don’t mind what changes they make even if it’s something as drastic as cutting out a main character. As long as I get to play a remake of FFVII my life will be complete. I just want to see Sephiroth, Vincent, and Tifa in HD dammit.

  • Justice V

    Well technically VII wasn’t Nomura’s creation. But I’m down for the episodic realistic action oriented game as well. Also if they cut any main character it would probably be Vincent and/or Yuffie since they were hidden/extra characters you could miss out on heh.

  • I was being sarcastic you tard. I don’t really play Western games that much, except maybe Ratchet and Clank or even Uncharted or something. I don’t wanna play anymore gorilla games. Dude just stop. YOU obviously don’t play a lot of videogames, yourself if you only know like 5, friggin’ casual.

  • Justice V

    All this info is very nice to hear. The episodic idea makes perfect sense (especially since that was exactly the same excuse Blizzard gave for spreading StarCraft III across 3 games). I just hope it doesn’t take six years before the end of the releases. The battle system still has me intrigued. I hope we get some ATB’s with Nomura or Kitase eventually and they kind of talk about the tech involved and how the game will actually work. Though that could come in a year, no rush. Have to say Barret looks awesome though. Love Barrets new design, and can’t wait to see Tifa and Seph.

  • Chris

    you said next gen that is all there is really. there really isnt anything next gen out right now. ok ill let xenoblade slide… that is all. what are you 14 or something?

  • HalfLucan

    Some people like to be able to afford food when they play games…

  • Mark D

    Thanks for correcting me, I’ll just edit my comment lol. Like I’ll be sad if Vincent is cut out since he’s linked to Sephiroth directly, since he was in love with his mother and his father turned him into the monster he is. If any character is cut out it would be Yuffie since she isn’t linked to any main characters. But if either of them was cut out it would be sad but I wouldn’t mind.

  • Chris

    and japanese games are not exactly breaking down any doors these days. fyi i used to live in japan. ive played more jrpgs then you think even exist. peace [email protected]

  • What the hell are you talking about anymore? Huh?

  • Geno

    And the infamous EXO Battle Royale.

    I think I’m already getting the argument about it being episodic, which I’m accepting people’s arguments about a whole RPG not being told in one go. I get it. The arguments I don’t really appreciate still are: money milking (hating anything worth more than 60 USD), hatred towards action-based combat system vs turn-based, and wanting the original game with better graphics but with no changes whatsoever.

  • Geno

    Sell it for a low price, and they’ll probably barely break even. Sell it for a higher price and they’ll get pirated. How ironic. I guess the best way is for these companies to not make any games at all. Not worth the effort at all.

  • Mathias Jensen

    I just hope that the episodes are seamless, and that each episode isn’t going to cost $50, and I do also hope that SE releases the episodes close to each other and not one every second year or so.

  • Then buy food. If you can’t do both then don’t You gotta make sacrifices, and obviously food is more important than video games.

  • HalfLucan

    You’re an idiot…

  • Calm down folks. I still trying to figure out what they mean with it. I get the idea that the game is too huge too be a single release but let’s try to see things thru a good point of view. The original one was an episodic game, the whole masterpiece was divided into lots of discs. If they were released on a splited way no one would be complaining right now.

    We don’t know how they are gonna release it. I don’t believe we are getting it in a digital way. I wonder if they’re gonna release the whole package with 3-4 discs… No problem for me. Im just concerned of how much it will cost me.

    So guys, give Nomura a chance and stop hating everything so much. Square told us from the beginning that things would be different so there’s no reason to be suprised. Hope they make things clear for us.

  • Adrian

    I’d rather just play it all at once. I understand why they might need separate episodes due to the large volume of data going into it, but it kinda deflates all of my hype knowing that I’ll have to wait like 3+ years for the full collection to come out. And by then I’ll probably have seen enough of it on the internet for it to not be so special and exciting anymore. Oh well. There’s still KH3 and FFXV to look forward to.

  • Devil’s Luck

    It means that FF7:R will be released in separate episodes a la Telltale games and Starcraft 2. Episode 1 will come out whenever, and then we wait a while until episode 2 releases, etc.. The original wasn’t an episodic game, it was a game that didn’t fit on one disc.
    Also, there is no way they won’t release this digitally in addition to physically.

  • Noctis

    I`m ok with this, why are people so angry?

    First of all if this will be episodic
    – We will get the first episode sooner then we think
    – They will have more time to do this really epic

    Stop complaining and just be happy it is coming.

  • Tim Dargan

    This all seems fine to me – hyped for the release… oh crap – time to save up for a PS4 just for FFVII remake XD

  • António Bernardo

    Exactly my thoughts.

  • William Trengove

    exactly…They’ll complain if they have to wait over 10 years just like with FFXV, at least this way they get their hands on the game faster and it won’t feel rushed.

  • Kaizokugami

    Really glad to hear about the combat system. I like both ATB and ARPG, but I really think this new combat system they showed off looks better. I’m glad that even if they’re changing the combat system they’re still thinking about original fans.

    While it makes sense that they’re going to make it episodic, considering the amount of data, I’m still a bit worried about how they’re going to price each episode…especially considering we’ll have pretty much no idea how long each one will be. Unless they inform us that is, which I doubt they will. I’ll be getting it regardless but I wouldn’t be too happy about paying $60 for each episode. If it’s say…3 or 4 episodes that’s a total of $180-$240. Kind of makes me think about the whole $120 Battlefront fiasco. So hopefully they’ll be sensible about the pricing.

  • D.3ND

    Yuffie and Vincent hidden character status was nerfed when “Advent Children” was release follow by “Before Crisis core”, “Crisis core”, “Dirge of [email protected]#$ing Cerberus” and Novels which they appeared in. So there’s no way in 7 hells they gonna pretend they didn’t exist, it’s like ignoring a unicorn that walk into a room and then burst into a thousand snakes. :L

  • Jesus Christ

    From fire crazy house to happy house. The energy level subsided so quickly today about this. Aww, man y’all were on fire!!!

    With the additional information, I still hold some concern.

    I’d prefer if they finish the entire game and then release the episodes at once. We didn’t have to wait for each disk in the original. If they are mum about the timing, nobody would really know. And even if they make us wait, we can’t do anything about it anyway. This is not new territory. We’ve been playing the waiting game for another game already *cough* XV *cough*.

    Also, the pricing is worrisome. I imagine they release each episode in regular and CE edition, with CE being 50+. So if there’s 3 episodes that’s $150. Then when all episodes are released, they’ll making a CE compilation about $150. Money money money.

    I still stand with the gross arm thing. Despite the logic and intention behind it, I still think it looks gross (even with a purpose).

  • karasuKumo

    I’m down for it if it is three episodes maximum and each one concludes satisfyingly rather than abruptly. It’d be best to release it in big parts like the XIII trilogy rather than getting say upwards of five episodes at about ten to fifteen hours of gameplay each with a few months between releases.

    The way I see it working is that the first part will release some time next year, either before or after XV (I really think Sony is pushing for a release of this soon). The next will release half way through 2017 and the final part (assuming it will be in three parts) will release potentially a year after. One 40 hour game per year would be reasonable and I’d even be willing to pay full price for each. We’re happy with a ton of gameplay, they are happy with all the money being made and all is good with the world. They can then sell it as a three disc game after the third one is out at a higher price in some fancy limited edition packaging.

  • karasuKumo

    The arm thing I can get as they seem to be basing him on Bruce Lee’s physique a little, the thing I have trouble with is that despite Barrett’s arm’s being triple the size of his he looks like he struggles lifting his gun, whereas Cloud effortlessly carries his sword.

  • Jesus Christ

    Whatever the reason is, the developer could give it 10 purposes/logic/reasong. I still think it looks gross. Intention is one thing. Perception is another. And this is mine.

  • karasuKumo

    Perhaps he’ll bulk up a bit as the game progresses. I’m waiting for the “because mako” responses about him wielding his sword.

  • Jesus Christ

    Your comment been echoed in the other thread. And I say until he bulk up, he looks gross.

  • But they did not said “episodes”. They said multiple parts. It’s different, isn’t it?

  • D.3ND

    He was sleep in a tube fill with mako for 5 years while being experimented by Hojo, plus a year to “recover”. Basically he has traits and abilities to be a member of SOLDIER thanks to Hojo.

  • D.3ND

    Mako is one hell of drug

  • Jesus Christ

    Someone go buy Cloud a bucket of KFC and throw it a him. LOL

  • D.3ND

    Kentucky Fried Chocobo?

  • Jesus Christ

    See, I like you already. LOooooooooooool

  • stevenm281

    They didn’t mention the amount of episodes yet, and it wouldn’t be surprising if the Midgar part would be Episode 1, from the beginning until they leave for Kalm. Episode 2 could conclude in Costa Del Sol. etc.

  • SNK

    Oops, my bad! I meant “multi-part”

  • MistwalkerKilyK

    I can understand that. I don’t like the game being episodic, but the reason they give are undestandable at least.

  • Kaizokugami

    People are flipping out because they don’t know how long they’ll have to wait for each episode. I mean, I’ll be getting them all regardless but if people have to wait 1-2 years for a new episode it’s inevitable that many people will feel disconnected once the next episode releases since so much time will have passed. I know I’ll feel that way.
    The only way this will work is if they outsource enough (they’re not outsourcing enough at the time) because as it stands they don’t have anywhere near enough manpower to release these episodes (or parts if that’s your fancy) at a steady pace. If they outsource for asset creation, since they’re most likely using UE4 so they already have a complete engine to work with, it can all be built simultaneously. It’s cheaper and more efficient.

    With all that said, I’d personally rather wait a few more years and get the complete game in my hands rather than it being episodic. I don’t quite like it. People have a right to be concerned and they should be because SE aren’t exactly known for their stellar planning (i.e announcing Versus XIII before it had even left the storyboard). Still, they’ve worked on the game for a good amount of time already so there’s definitely no need to outright panic. But it’s still SE so I have my concerns. I think the biggest reason they’re doing this episodic thing is primarily because of Versus XIII/XV; they don’t want people to have to wait too long if things don’t go as planned. Some might say it’s a wise move, but I’d disagree.

  • Jon

    It could very well be based on the Disks. Episode 1 might be the first disk, Episode 2, second…..

  • While that is a good argument, this isn’t a game for which we have a huge anticipation for what comes next. At this point I don’t believe there’s anyone that doesn’t know what happens in FF VII. All that we have to look forward to story-wise is an expansion of events that we already know transpired. Other than that, yes we will have the anticipation to see old areas in brand new HD visuals but that’s something that we would’ve had either way. I respect your opinion, but I’d rather roam in the streets of Midgar in marvelous HD graphics while I wait for the next batch to come out.

  • Yuuki Tera

    Honestly my only problem with the episodic release is: Well it be an open world game? Can I go wherever I want in the last episode for example?
    If I can then this is actually better than a single release.

  • César H. Sandoval

    I actually am lol, and you can make tons of stuff as a game programmer if you’re not a lazy bastard, especially if you are using Unreal like this remake is, the tools are all there if you use them smartly.

    SE is a huge company, look at other huge games like Dragon Age that came out this year, making a “big” game withouth splitting it on several parts isn’t impossible, hell the games that usually follow thes practice are the small, 8 hours to beat ones, like telltale VNs for example.

    One would thing a studio like Square would still have the talent to make a big RPG, the story is already there, the art design as well, is not like they are making FVII from zero, hell unless they are making it an open-world grindfest, I can’t see how modern tech and developing tools can’t help a bunch of skillfull programers to make a game, they spawned three FFXIIIs on the span of the PS3 lifetime, they made XIV twice, created several KHs and other stuff. I’m honestly curious how much they are wasting resources in order to fail at completing the XV and VIIIR projects in one go.

  • SNK

    Yep. Multiple parts, not episode. At least, not yet. They still have to explain the definition of episode for them.

  • stevenm281

    It would be cool if you pay the Episode 1 full price, and then, the game updates itself when the other episodes release, so instead of having multiple games, its still the same one, just with content being added periodically.

  • stevenm281

    I still think it might be too much content. Don’t forget they intend to add a lot to it.

  • stevenm281

    part/episode = the same

  • stevenm281

    they mentioned that nothing will be cut out, they will add stuff instead.

  • César H. Sandoval

    Disc space is not really and excuse nowadays with Blurays and modern game compression technices, MGSV was only 30gigs and that game is 99% rendered in real time, and also huge with an average of 100 gameplay hours.

    I will concede thou, that a prerendered still picture is way easier to produce than a fully 3D model for maps, I could understand it taking more time to make, but is clearly not impossible since most games nowadays use them as an industry-standard. So yeah, they want to put a “first episode” out quickly in order to start making profits, but making it sound like a big game is nort possible to make on modern hardware where everyone and their mothers are going open-world huge, just paints them as lazy and incompetent developers.

    Also, you’re the one not making any sense, Voice acting? please! the script is already there, a separate studio could record the voices in a couple of months and not delay the programmers making the game at all, wich is what every game does already, FF has been voiced since X on the PS2, and you didn’t see any of those games being separated into fractions because of that, any kind of audio addition is not a real excuse to complecate a game’s development.

  • SNK

    It makes me lose faith in humanity when people say “they could do it 20 years ago, why can’t they do it now?” or “It’s BS that they cn’t fit it in one blu-ray! Release two blu-rays then!”
    My god, people. My. God.

  • Jesus Christ

    You call Me? LOL

  • Jesus Christ

    Now, if what you mean is paying episode 1 full price and the subsequent ones free? I like!

  • César H. Sandoval

    You actually raise a fair point, that “FF7R must look amazing by today’s standards” mentality is holding back the team remaking the game, is it worth it to be that ambitious, I guess only time will tell. Some people would’ve been satisfied with just a graohic update, but they are remaking the gameplay systems as well, so modernizing this to hell and back is taking more from them.

    I will not take back the “back in the old days, game developers were more talented” claim tho, sure, the process is more complex now, but so are the tools to help them, so it’s the hardware backing them, and they clearly have a lot more resources as a studio nowadays than they did on the PS1 days… They falied to adapt wich in the real world can mean death, if the guys who back in the day made Crash Bandicoot can make stuff like Last of Us and Uncharted nowadays, SquEnix should feel ashamed that the industry standards overcome them that much these days.

  • I believe (and hope) it’s more than one disc.

  • EinMugenTenshin

    Don’t worry buddy. Cheapskates will be subsidized by quality seeking whales, and you’d get the game 1 year later for half the price or even 5 years later in a complete set discount option. Then, 7 years later it is a 10 £ option on steam, at which point everyone can afford it.

  • GBuster

    Yeah sure you are. But hey we are all computer programmers.

  • Chris

    dude the games main story board has been done for nearly 2 decades 1/2 – 3/4 of the work is there.

  • Whatever ya say…

  • Chris

    9 cds would fit on 1 blueray!

  • stevenm281

    of course, the other episodes would be free of charge.

  • Chris

    This is only happening because they are taking a cult classic and trying to rape it for money

  • Chris

    Thank God for agreeing with me lol

  • Chris

    yuffie and vincent wont be cut…. but you wont be able to use them unless you buy their episode! see its not cut but now you have to pay more

  • Chris

    If they include a fully remastered ff7 original with remastered cutscenes with episode 1, then i will buy it.

  • Chris

    then there would only be 2 episodes as the third disk was only boss fight

  • Chris

    i think it does man. no more sub, airship, and buggie would really really suck

  • Vayu Purana

    well that’s even more sad to hear
    for this starcraft 2 game do they charge full price for each episode?

    cause if each episode of either that or FF7 remake were $20 and not $50-60 only then would I feel it being some what okay

  • Vayu Purana

    that’s not a good reason to me, a good reason would be that as powerful as the graphics are for the game that they couldn’t have enough space to put on a console’s disc without reducing them to save space, now that would be a good reason…..this is just them milking FF7 nostalgia fags even more breaking the game up in parts instead of giving a full game remake like we all originally thought

  • Vayu Purana

    episodic means we’ll be charged for the game piece by piece at a time individually
    having a game on many discs back then we still were charged for it as a full game getting it all at once, are you that fucking stupid not to see the difference?

  • Who the fuck do you think you’re talking to, you broke bitch? Are you that fucking stupid that you can’t read the article? Huh? How much will it cost, since you know so damn much. Like everybody else here, including me, you don’t know a GODDAMN thing about the game other than what they released to the public. No more. Unless you work at Square Enix, or your name is Tetsuya Nomura or whatever, I don’t want to hear shit else your whiny ass has to say.

  • Vayu Purana

    people wanted a full game, not broken to be up into parts to be charged for it individually

  • Jon

    I don’t think it was just the boss fight. I assume you’re referring to Sephiroth. If I remember, weren’t there alot of cut scenes as the party climbed down the cave? It wasn’t just where you popped in the third disk and you fought the final version of Sephiroth.

  • Vayu Purana

    haha THIS yes XD

  • Vayu Purana

    getting into another argument with someone else I see
    yes keep trying to justify SE being cash grab whores more than usual……..

  • Vayu Purana

    SE isn’t some lowly gaming developer, they’re AAA devs, they can afford it, they’re just being money grubbing whores like the rest of said triple A devs

    they don’t wanna reduce their pretty graphics of what they wanna do with the remake to fit on the console discs, and this way gives them more money, so win-win for them

  • Yes. Because every company needs cash, and that’s what consumers are for. It’s already a “cash cow” since they’re remaking a game everyone whined about for the past 10 fucking years. Here it is, and now here are the complaints. If you don’t fucking want it, don’t fucking buy it, end of story. What is wrong with people?

  • Devil’s Luck

    There is no difference in the games industry. I could just as easily call it FF7:R part 1 and sell that, then sell part 2 later. That’s still the definition of an episodic game. Any game that tells a single overarching narrative over the course of more than one release without being an explicit sequel/prequel is by definition an episodic game. .hack calls each game a “part” but it’s an episodic game, for example.

  • César H. Sandoval

    Everyone but the trained monkeys working at Square Enix, yeah.

  • Angel Vicens

    Can we still switch characters in a fight? A battle system like xii would be pretty fun. Im tired of only being able to control just one character. Open world concept like in the old games would be great too,that’s one thing that always made ff shine. Im glad the cross dressing part is staying but would also love to see the scene of cloud, barret and tifa running up the stairs in the shinra building. That dialogue exchange was priceless!

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    “As you can see in the trailer, we showed Sector 1 and Sector 8,
    but in those areas alone, I think you can see a lot of density. When
    you’re remaking the entirety of the original version in that quality,
    it’s not possible to fit it all in one release.”
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The funniest thing I ever read!!!
    Did Square Enix building is set in the jungle without internet? They ever heard of game name Uncharted 4? Uncharted 4 graphic looks so real and is the most beautiful games in whole games history. Uncharted 4 is the most beautiful game Ever!!!
    Square Enix is really funny. FFXV is more beautiful than Remake so what they are talking about?!

    I will never understand that company.

  • waffleyone

    It is a matter of what they can do versus what they should do. the FF series has been suffering from psychotic amounts of bloat lately. Rather than rewrite and redo everything, they should do what people have been begging for for over a decade: A high[er] fidelity version of FF7 with a few modernization tweaks and a little extra content, instead of “Final Fantasy 16 parts 1-6: Final Fantasy 7: Again: Sort Of”.

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    Square Enix ever heard of game named GTA5? Not? Too bad.
    GTA5 world is sooooo huge and have sooooo many things to do. And Rockstar is making game like this 3-5 years. Ha! Ive heard that someone from Rockstar said they could release GTA each year but game would be not so popular anyomore.
    Square is really really really bad at making games with open world.

  • Kaizokugami

    Naturally, but they’re also trying to draw in new fans with this same as XV. It being episodic might be extremely off putting to new people. It all really depends on the transition between each episode, and if they end abruptly or not. Then again, devs releasing incomplete games is the norm nowadays so maybe it won’t bother a younger audience.
    Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m looking forward to roaming the streets of Midgar myself in glorious HD and I intend to explore every nook and cranny. I just find it a little annoying to have to wait for the next batch once I’m done with the first one, but whether I’m truly annoyed or not depends on how much content they add to compliment the pricing. If it’s say…in the $60 range I’ll expect at least 40-50 hours worth of content, but the more the better.

  • Kaizokugami

    Where did you get those numbers from? Please provide a link to an official statement where they said this. Otherwise GTFO.

  • Kaizokugami

    Nothing wrong with what Viridea said. HalfLucan just pulled a random number out of his ass as an excuse to bitch about the game, and you’re defending him.

  • Josh Asher

    He doesn’t struggle, he lifts it slowly. You really think Barret can’t lift his own gun arm?

  • HalfLucan

    I don’t need those numbers for inference.
    SE WILL NOT release a 3 part game with the intention of selling it for a total of £50

    Since i know that – also since their justification is that “its 3 full games worth of content”
    They think they are selling us 3 games, so i can also assume with a pretty high f*cking degree of certainty!!! that it will cost x3 more.

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    Did Square saw any gameplay of Assassins Creed Syndicate? Graphic in Syndicate is AMAZING!!! And have one of the biggest worlds in all games. Syndcate is graphically really really advanced and awesome.
    Square should ask ubisoft to make graphic for that remake.

  • HalfLucan

    Not fucking buying it.
    I’ll turn to piracy instead

  • Ho ho ho, well I hope you get arrested, fucking thief. I hope you also realize that there’s a lot more at stake when pirating newer games over the old ones that they really don’t sell anymore. Don’t say irrational things just because you’re mad and can’t think of anything to say, loser.

  • SNK

    Dude, YOU were begging for a remake like that. Not everyone.

  • SNK

    Hahahahaha! I missed you, Jesus! Please, bless this mess!

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    Ubisoft is making new assassins creed game each year and next ones are prettier and bigger. Think what Ubisoft would make if they would spent 3 or 5 years making Assassins Creed game?
    That game would be the biggest and the prettiest game ever with the tons of things to do.
    Square should learn from developers like Ubisoft or Rockstar.

  • HalfLucan

    Oh, i wont pirate the new one, I’ll watch that on a lets play and run an emulator.

  • Emulating is pirating. Just get the PC version and mod it or something. Really I don’t care what you do. What’s the point in this conversation, anyway, now?

  • This just in, in a statement that Sqare Enix sent to Kotaku, they mentioned that each episode will have the scale of a single game. So yeah, I think we’ll end up satisfied!

  • You *can* switch characters – if you watch that new footage, you can see player control switches to Barret at one point during the fight.

  • Syafiq Khaidir

    if the game is just too big, then why not release multiple part, but SINGLE RELEASE as 3 disks?

  • KarmikCykle

    Blatant lie, sure. But a pretty lie.

  • OfficialJab

    Really hope it’s set up in a way that you need to use each member of the party, instead of switching at will and letting the AI handle them. Maybe each character gets 20-30 seconds and that’s their turn, then you take control of the next person whose ATB has filled up.

  • Patrick Bateman

    all depends on what they mean by episodic, most of the people who were pissed ( myself included ) haven’t seen this Q and A and to be honest when people hear ” they’re splitting the game into episodes” they don’t think of what they did with FF13, ( which is actually just sequels ) they think of Telltale games or Half Life 2 or Resident Evil Revelations 2…and I honestly DON’T want that, I’d rather have the full game out with multiple disks if needed just like the original, if it needs to be $15 more because the disks are more expensive, okay, episodic just sounds like a money grab to be honest..even if that’s truly not their intention.

    these episodes better be full length games, not chopped up into “Midgar” ” Nibelheim” ” Cosmo Canyon” etc…

  • SOMEONEWHOSDISSAPOINTED

    The longest a Final Fantasy game’s story should be allowed to have is 70-75 hours, and yet, the average is 40-60 (almost uninterrupted of course) but having to wait between years for them to release the game will be horribly tedious and the impact will constantly be decreasing.
    Why can’t they proceed as they have with other FF titles, with a really long game in 3 CDs? Final Fantasy XII was huge and long as fock on the PS2 and it used 1 CD, Final Fantasy XII was also super long and aesthetically beautiful as well, it took 3 CDS, why can’t it be the same for this one? Having a 70+ story mode will also become tedious and people will start losing interest, same would happen with a multi-year release of a single game.
    The amount of work on this project is huge, they’re remaking a almost 20 year old classic, perhaps they want to do a cash-grab for their hard work, but if they do it this way, it’ll backfire.
    All great selling FF titles have been released in one shot, no matter how long the game has been (we’re talking about 50 hours of story the minimum), if they release it in one go with 3 CDs, they amount of money they’ll receive will be immeasurable, and im not saying it cause i want it that way(btw yes i do) but it’ll be beneficial for both parts, really REALLY beneficial for them as well economically

  • Patrick Bateman

    we don’t get our hands on the game faster though, just because the episodes are periodically released doesnt mean the game’s complete, we still have to wait for the game to finish and unless they really have been working on it secretly for a few years already that WON’T be happening anytime soon. I don’t want anything rushed, it’s a remake, there’s no rush, over 10 years would be ridiculous since the story is already complete ( i assume they’ll be adding the events of Crisis Core and adding more Genesis/Weiss) but i can wait a few years for it to be done properly.

    episodic will just feel like a tease, a demo, like Ground Zeroes for MGS V felt ( for $39.99…)

    make it a single release with multiple disks or release it in chunks like LOTR (FF13) not Telltale style and people will calm down.

  • Zach Hagler

    I see where square enix is trying to go with this, but personally I’d rather just have it all in one game than in split episodes. Especially if you have to pay for each individual episode they release, not to mention you get right to a part that’s interesting and then bam, they slap a big fat o’l “to be continued in the next release” sign at the end of it.

  • Kaizokugami

    That’s awesome news! If that’s the case I don’t mind spending $60 for each episode at all. Do you have a link to the article?

  • Kaizokugami

    Even if they are…what’s the fucking problem? Each episode is going to be the scale of a full game. Pretty fucking worth it, no?

  • Patrick Bateman

    ew so you’re saying YOU wanted “Final Fantasy 16 parts 1-6: Final Fantasy 7: Again: Sort Of”” ? gross dude…

  • Patrick Bateman

    if the first episode costs enough to cover the rest that’d be doable, but if square doesn’t make any money on it they won’t do that..i won’t mind paying $79-89 ( Canada prices ) for 1 episode if it means the rest will be free, i have a feeling it’s going to be like Destiny/MGS Ground Zeroes though…

  • HalfLucan

    If The Witcher can give you 150 hours of gameplay for £50 then why cant FF7?

  • Patrick Bateman

    it’s sort of understandable…they could always just include more than 1 disk, and if it’s too big to fit on 2-3 disks then they’ve done something wrong…because there’s plenty of giant beautiful games out there ( someone pointed out FF12 which is a perfect example of a beautiful open world adventure with a great long story and side quests that fit on 1 DVD for ps2) mind you i understand the graphics and mechanics used on a PS2 game are FAR different than a PS4 game, since the story is already made and they REALLY only need to add what ever they changed in Crisis Core, I can’t see graphics and story being the only thing holding back a single release ( single release with 2 disks if needed ) it sounds like $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to me..

  • Patrick Bateman

    yeah but disk 3 was a CD lol not a DVD or Blueray…disk 3 was considered “short” because of how small the disk space is, it needed the most room for the ending, nowadays I’m sure it could fit on 2 disks, or 3 since i assume they’ll be adding a ton of cut scenes, which would mean the original places were disk 1 ended and 2 started would be changed and so fourth, to do it in a way to balance out the need for 3 disks so one’s not shorter than the other.

  • Patrick Bateman

    depends how much they add, we don’t want it to become redundant…the game and story is big enough as it is, especially if they include the Crisis Core changes ( which is only a few things and a couple additions ) if they want to add that much more it should be in a sequel after FFVII and before Advent Children..

  • Patrick Bateman

    :::::::::::::::::SPOILERS FOR FFVII/CRISIS CORE::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    well if you recall Cloud ( judging by the age difference at the end of Crisis Core to what he looks like at the beginning of VII ) it’s safe to say that it’s only been maybe 2 years since he left Zack, and in the condition Cloud was in with Mako poisoning he shouldn’t have even been alive, it’s not at all surprising he looks like shit lol it’s also no secret that during his time in midgar he clearly was living cheque to cheque as a hired mercenary…in the slums lol

  • Patrick Bateman

    ^ this

  • Chris

    a boss fight, several cut scenes, and the crater are all that really reside on this disk

  • Chris

    sorry. i need to amend my previous comment. here is whats on disk 3
    http://jegged.com/Games/Final-Fantasy-VII/Walkthrough/Disc-3/
    Still not that much though

  • Matthew Ocampo

    I’m OKAY about that “multi-part” thing but PLEASE! For the Love of GOD! they need to release each “episode” in a disk not in Digital!….if they release it in digital……………………………….whatever! I don’t care how much it costs! I will be ready to give them my money because it’s FFVIIR and IF they put the “Episode” chu-chu in a DISK (sorry for my english!)

  • Kaizokugami

    And you know the first episode of the remake won’t have 150 hours of gameplay how? You have literally no idea how many hours of gameplay the first episode will or won’t have so stop pretending you do.

  • Jesus Christ

    Look, I get the reasoning. The story.

    It’s petty. But I want to say what I feel. And I can’t help to point out his nasty arm and body needs a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chocobos. I’m NOT sorry, I can’t help it.

    HELP HIM. Somebody, please throw him a piece of bread. Something.

  • Patrick Bateman

    “HELP HIM. Somebody, please throw him a piece of bread or something.”

    lmfao you’re hilarious!

  • stevenm281

    they already mentioned that we’ll get to explore areas that we couldn’t in the original so I feel like Episode 1 will be Midgar and the city will be fully explorable with side-quests to do all over.

  • stevenm281

    no, the whole word is in it, Midgar, Gold Saucer mini-games, Weapons, Wutai, etc. almost everything except previous story stuff is on the last Disc.

  • Chris

    The world map is on all disks read my post with the link. A few side quests the and the final boss battle. I linked it read.

  • Justice V

    I really don’t think it has to do with being a cash grab. i think it has more to do with the fact that to really replicate everything from the original in a consistent high quality look that they intend it’s going to be extremely massive. That’s what Kitase has been saying since playstation 2 days and especially since Advent Children came out and they said if they wanted to do it it would have to at least match AC. Things a lot of people keep forgetting when they say “hey it was originally made on 3 discs, just make it on 3 discs again.” or “FFXII and FFXV are huge games, FFVII should be no different.” are forgetting that both of those games were designed from the ground up for their respective consoles. With the limitations and everything brought to front when the game was made. FFXII was huge, and XV looks to be huge and open as well, but I doubt either could compare to the size VI, VII and probably even VIII were. Because graphically and technologically they were designed to be as big as they could back then. VII alone had the huge cities (and small towns), a lot of mini games, secret dungeons, an over world map that was gigantic with airships, cars/bikes, submarines which lead to the underwater areas. They could cut all those things out and it would most likely fit onto a 1-2/3 disc game but we’d be losing so much of the world and everything would be condensed. Similar to how X and XIII felt. If they want to really make everything have the same level of detail throughout the entire game, while not really losing anything from the original it’s going to be massive.

  • Justice V

    Maybe, but they said you never have to change characters if you don’t want. I don’t know if they mean the 3 characters in the party, or if they mean while fighting you never have to switch off Cloud. I want the AI to be intelligent, but I also don’t want them to be as smart as FFXII’s characters were where you didn’t have to press a single button to clear a dungeon.

  • Justice V

    Yeah maybe when ps2 released I wanted a version of FFVII with slightly higher graphics and fidelity. But ever since PS3 I’ve been wanting pretty much what they’re doing now. I wanted an entirely redone version of the game, with the AC like character models (or better) with voice acting, highly detailed world, added story content to connect with the rest of the Compilation (at least with Crisis Core since it’s the same writer), and for it to be just as massive and condensed as the original. And that’s what they seem to be giving us. Granted the only plausible way they’ve decided they can keep true to the original while doing all the upgrades is to split it into multiple parts, but depending on how many parts, and how much each part costs, how they fit together, etc. I’m fine with it.

  • HalfLucan

    It’s not a poor argument. We’ll just see. If SE is looking at the metrics they will know if it will significantly impact sales or not.

    All I’m saying is. I’m not buying it £50 a pop.
    If the majority aside from the hardcore wont either, then they’ll rethink it because they will have too

  • Justice V

    Well luckily unlike Ground Zeroes, they say it will be a full game, whereas GZ said from the beginning it was only a demo kinda thing. GZ would be more comparable to Episode Duscae.

    There’s still too little to tell how this whole multi-part release is going to go. But my guess based on everything Nomura and Kitase have been saying is that by the final release you would be able to do everything and go everywhere just like in the original 97 release. Maybe not, but would seem silly if you couldn’t. I’m also guessing they’re going to be using a pricing system similar to StarCraft 2. Where each one is a little more than they probably should be separately, but once everything is out you can buy the bundle for the right price.

  • waffleyone

    That’s what people wanted before they wanted more, More, MORE!!! I don’t have my finger on the pulse of the FF fanbase though.

  • waffleyone

    That is totally rational to want. I suspect what they’re making us will be full of bloat and nonsense in some ways and completely lacking and underwhelming in others because SE doesn’t know how to restrain itself. If they happen to put out something great, then wonderful. I’m not optimistic though, as I haven’t enjoyed a single game they’ve made since Square merged with Enix.

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    Ubisoft doesn’t spend only one year developing the game, they stagger the development cycles of the different studios handling the AC games so that they are released annually. Their games have an average 4 year development time.

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    its not a matter of disc numbers or whatnot, it’s development time. As they release the episodic content they will still be working on the upcoming releases. Do we really want another decade long development cycle before we get anything at all? I’m down with their plan.

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    I don’t want to wait another decade for this. They know what they’re doing.

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    it really depends on the quantity of content. If one episode feels like what another $60 game generally feels like today, then i’m cool with it. On the other hand, let’s hope it’s not another Ground Zeroes.

    Considering they’ve stated every episode will be the size of a full game these days, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt for now. People are clinging way too much on the ‘episode’ term.

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    Not sure why the masses keep bringing up the ‘discs’ issue. it’s not a matter of the storage media. it’s the development time to complete the game. I’m pretty sure FFXV would fit one one, maybe two blu-rays. But it’s been night a decade. Do you really want to wait that long for this just so that you can be happy you’re buying a ‘full’ game rather than it in chunks?

    And what do you mean by full length game but not chopped up into zones or areas? What if the entire first section in midgar takes 50 hours to get through? Is it a full game because of the time, or not because it only stayed in midgar?

    No personal attacks intended here, and it’s the internet so big surprise the reactions are the way they are. but there’s barely any information out about this. people need to chill out!

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    Not hey wont, because it;s the internet. Nobody is calm about anything anymore. People will be pissed it took so long to make. people will be pissed it took as many discs to hold (like that shit matters). People will be pissed because people.

  • William Trengove

    maybe should just calm down in general instead of jumping to ‘The Sky is Falling’ scenario, I’ve played MANY episodic games in my time…all of which have been phenomenal, and these ‘episodes’ aren’t going to be 3 hours long, they’re aiming for at least 30-40 hours of gameplay in each. how about you just wait until the First one comes out before making such conclusions.

  • Look, I’m actually much of the same opinion. If it were up to me, I’d have them make really pretty 3D environments but with a similar top-down perspective as in the original, with a Chrono Trigger-esque battle mode that’s embedded in the actual game world. I would keep the combat turn based with just more tactical depth added. But what I want isn’t what Square Enix is aiming for. They’re trying to please a crowd that’s not played the original, while banking on the nostalgia factor to draw the existing FF7 fanbase.

    As to the comments on development processes, yeah, tools are much much better than they were in the 90’s. Considering that, FF7’s devs did something remarkable back in the day. I will concede that Square Enix doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to timely development of their more recent games (FF13’s development was problematic, FF14’s first launch was terrible, etc). They do bite off more than they can chew, and compared to Western companies who have AAA game production down much better, they do look bad. BUT: all this isn’t about the “talent” of the actual developers (the coders, the artists). It’s more about direction, coordination and creative leadership that’s to blame. For example, I read in a FF13 post mortem about how they had to scrap almost the entire early version of the game because of muddied creative leadership. (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/121381/Exclusive_Behind_The_Scenes_Of_Square_Enixs_Final_Fantasy_XIII.php).

    You say they have more resources now, but that’s a double edged sword. More money, more problems. More moving parts, more arguably unnecessary expectations (such as in graphics) both for the game and sales goals.

    The thing is, AAA development is more about making sure all the different parts are in sync and feeding into each other as well as possible. Otherwise you’ll have bottlenecks that can jam the system, causing delays or even necessitate complete revamps of already done work. That’s what Square Enix has messed up in recent productions, and you’d hope they have learned from their failures by now.

  • Patrick Bateman

    fair enough, but the story and characters are already there, there’s already so much to work with, unlike FF Versus (turned 15), where the worlds, story, characters and everything were made from scratch and needed to be developed, ( not saying I’m okay with it taking more than 10 years to complete ) but to compare the 2 is a little ridiculous i think, if FFVII Remake took over 10 years to make then they’re doing something very very wrong..

    also anyone who’s played the game should now with the amount of things that happened in Midgar, it shouldn’t take a full game’s worth of time to tell that story even knowing that they plan to add things ( I hope only Crisis Core/Before Crisis/Dirge of Cerberus elements ) I don’t want the game and story dragged on for the sake of making it more than 1 installment, you know what i mean?

    to each there own though i get what you’re trying to say.

  • Patrick Bateman

    sounds like you’re the one who needs to calm down bub. i wasn’t stating any of that as fact, just my opinion, and this was before the Square representative said the “episodes” will consist of enough content to be considered a full-length game.

    imo when companies release episodes to me it means $$$$$$$$$$$$, I’m passionate about Final Fantasy particularly VII and want it to be done right.

    with the way games are being made nowadays can you blame people like me for not liking this plan at first glance? I don’t want no Assassin’s Creed/Cod/Destiny type of Capitalist bs involved with the creation of this remake.

    It sounds like they are going the LOTR way so we’ll just see how it is, I have a right to an opinion though just as much as you do great that you’ve played Episodic games you’ve liked, i personally don’t like it.

  • Kaizokugami

    Only time will tell, but I doubt it’ll be another Ground Zeroes.

    Nomura himself used the term episode tho, so naturally people will cling to it.

  • Jesus Christ

    “They know what they’re doing”

    I’m not so optimistic.

  • Kaizokugami

    Nothing you’ve said even comes close to an argument. Your original post was just you pulling random numbers out of your ass like it was fact. Then you made an assumption that each part won’t have 150 hours of gameplay, which I think is unlikely too but it’s still just an assumption at this point. There’s no way of knowing either way.

    Basically, you haven’t come forth with a single good argument. All you’ve done is bitch and moan about hypotheticals.

    You’re dismissed.

  • stevenm281

    If they can make the original game much bigger, why stop them, we’ll just play more into this universe, stop complaining.

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    Really? So they have really many teams to make that game.
    I read that Unity made 10 teams. So maybe You are right.
    But Assassins Creed is still one of the biggest and one of the most beautiful game right now.

  • stevenm281

    filled with glitches. Square Enix developed games do not have glitches.

  • NECPS

    I am really ashamed to be a gamer. No I won’t give them my money in these conditions

  • NECPS

    I tell you why. They want your money to pay for those last bad final fantasy games they did. Square = Shinra rssssss Come Come , explain how this game is SO hard to make they need you to pay them lots of times more.. Oh this is disgusting

  • stevenm281

    They want to expand the damn game, what is so difficult to understand?

    They want each part to have its full-lenght story (which is probably something like 30-40 hours), they want each area to be fully explorable, filled with content.

    They want to give us more of FF7 and its universe, stop complaining.

    If they can make many games out of the original why not?

  • Vayu Purana

    me like many others im sure was expecting a full game $60
    not to be charged individual for pieces of it at a time, yes I know the reason but just reduce the graphical quality to save disc space; gameplay content > pretty graphics

  • Matthew Ocampo

    Let’s just wait and see :))))

  • Glacio_0

    Wait until all episodes are released, boom, problem solved.

  • stevenm281

    Take the XIII trilogy for example:
    FF13
    FF13-2
    LR (FF13-3)

    It could have been called
    FF13: Part One
    FF13: Part Two
    FF13: Part Three

    or:

    FF13: Episode 1
    FF13: Episode 2
    FF13: Episode 3

    No matter how you call it, its the same thing.

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    It’s the same thing that the Call of Duty Teams do. Treyarch, Infinity Ward, and sledgehammer games all rotate the Call of Duty releases. Their current dev cycle lasts about 3 years.

    No AAA game can be made in only one year.

  • SOMEONEWHOSDISSAPOINTED

    Sure they can expand the game, and we can get to know the FF7 universe better, but also a 70+ hours story gameplay will become tedious and fans will play inconsistently, the story and gameplay length must also have their limitations if they want the experience to be fully enjoyable.
    This is a very precious gem they can’t risk damaging, so the decisions and actions they take on the game shall be delicate and processed.
    Look, im ok with the episodic sht, but as long as its not a 3 year period or more, for their and the fandom’s sake

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    I always told my friends that FFXV seemed like it was a beta test for something even bigger on the horizon. No sane dev would spend 10 years and 3 iterations on a single title if they didn’t have bigger plans.

    The gen pop really doesn’t understand the game development pipeline. I don’t blame them for that, but t makes their opinions regarding how things should be a bit ignorant. Annualized games have crafted this illusion of ease. Story content, level design, art assets, experimental technology, and many other factors apply. A previous game’s dev time can’t be held as evidence for how things ‘ought’ to be done with the next title, especially after it’s been nearly 20 years.

    When it comes to narrative, you can take a single sentence and expand it into a paragraph. I could describe a dog taking a shit, and deliver it to you in a simple sentence or a lengthy narrative; there will be fans and critics of both. So while it may seem like a simple thing to re-tell the story, it won’t be. Because their going to it it completely differently than the first run.i mean they even have to re-write ALL of the dialogue because it’s all voice acted now, instead of just read. They have to redesign how we ingest the words, whether we can skip things or not. Shorten things here, lengthen them there, and more. They have to re-write a script in order to motion capture everything. Even though the story is already there, they’re basically redoing it – albeit not from scratch, but I. Reality there’s many times more work to be done than they had with the original.

    I mean even something like changing the combat from an instanced setting to a real-time one changes the length of the game, assets needed to create the battle requirements, level design, choice of how to render and shoot cutscenes/ narrative bits, and many other things.

    Maybe I’ve rambled. I suppose the short of it is that it’s far too early to pass judgement on their decision, and we won’t really get a grasp of whether or not we agree with them until we play the thing.

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    Yeah it may be optimism, but Square can’t afford to mess this up. They know that. Really, the future of the company is going to ride on this. I’m not saying they’ll be bankrupt, but one way or another square won’t be the same after this game releases. And they know they can’t fuck this up.

    This isn’t just the next final fantasy title. This isn’t some HD remaster that will be released in several platforms. This isn’t a reboot (well, it can be seen that way I guess – but u don’t).

    This is the thing that has been most requested to be developed by the gaming community, maybe only short of half life 3. This is one of those titles that will make or break the fan base. If they fuck this up, it’s only downhill for them. Gamers won’t trust them with anything again.

    If you though the backlash against Konami after PT, MGSV, and those terrible workplace practices that were uncovered was bad, I don’t want to see the reaction of square fucks this up.

    But I’m open to the possibility that this is all just a figment of my FF7 fanboydom.

  • It’s not just graphical qualities, It’s content in general. Like how the original game couldn’t fit all of it into one disc almost 20 years ago, and how they couldn’t squeeze that game in one N64 cartridge, either. Stop it with this “graphics don’t make the game” bullshit. They do make the game, and content makes the game, too. They BOTH are equally important. I’m pretty sure fans would be the first to complain if they cut anything pivotal out just to put it in one disc. Just let the game get released before you judge, and if it is expensive, just save your money until you can afford it. If you really wanted something, you’d find a way to get it.

  • Jesus Christ

    “If they fuck this up, it’s only downhill for them. Gamers won’t trust them with anything again.” This sentiment been shown before int he past. If you look for it, it’s not hard to find people who had lost their trust in the company when XIII was released and turned into a trilogy (one example). And for those who always bring up the last best FF title was ____ (say X)___, they already lost trust after that.

    My thing is now with more information and clarity, I’m not all that excited with their plan of making multiple full-game episodes. That just means more waiting time. If they could just remake the original game (with a change in battle system to imitate Advent Children) and split them into however many disk it takes. I’ll for that.

  • Valar-Shadowmourne

    True enough, but the scale is what’s important. I’d wager the crowd that would walk away this time would be many times the number that have walked away since the releases after X.

  • Zach Hagler

    That’s probably what i plan to do. Then again that depends on how the final product looks. Might turn out to be too damn irresistible.

  • Vayu Purana

    it wasn’t content that FF7 original had to be on 3 discs, it was cause of it’s CGI scenes taking up so space on PS1 discs, same thing for FF8 and FF9 being on multiple discs as well, and also that very same reason that the first FF13 was on 3 discs for 360 cause their discs were dvds and that had far less space than PS3 Blu-ray ones cause first FF13 had a ton of CGI cutscenes too, like I said CGI cutscenes eat up disc space memory but in FF7 remake’s case its the level of detail within its in-game graphics now that are the cause of it now

    its not that I can’t afford it, its the principle of the matter being charged individual for each episode as I’ve stated numerous times, I’ll just wait for all episodes to be released and most likely they’ll have a bundle for it buying them all together like a full game as it should have been

  • CGI is content! What the hell is the point of our conversation!? Just wait for a bundle or something, then! You’re over here acting like you weren’t gonna buy it at all. However, as a side note, what is the difference between getting the game in an episodic release versus getting one physical game. Were you planning on just rushing through the game? Why can’t you take your time and soak in the game while you’re playing it? If you beat it too fast you’ll probably whine about it being too short or something. What difference does it make how the game is released anyway? I think it’s sad that people are just having an uproar on something this goddamn simple. It’s not like they said the game was cancelled or anything. People get so angry over the dumbest shit.

  • Vayu Purana

    CGI = computer graphic images, you know those beautiful cutscenes……not the sidequests, nor the sizes of the zones themselves and yes there’s a huge difference, if FF7 original didn’t have CGI cutscenes in them then the game wouldn’t have needed to be 3 discs

    FF13-2 had far more content than FF13 but notice how it’s 360 counterpart didn’t have multi-disks? cause the sequel didn’t have nearly as much CGI scenes as the 1st one did, that right there shows they take up more disc space, not the amount of content

    I never mentioned a physical copy, I just wanted the full game as one purchase, why is that so hard for you to understand? also I wouldn’t care if it was multi-discs, that’s not my issue, my issue is being charged for the game piece by piece
    I’m not angry, just disappointed, I am how ever angry at you for not getting any of this hence you keep replying with more and more misunderstandings like so and don’t see how memory works for disc space clearly

    look at Xenoblade X, its for Wii U, this game is bigger then Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 and has just as much content or possibly even more but Wii U is a weaker console compared to PS4/XB1….yet notice the game’s not on multiple discs despite its content and sheer size of the game as a whole…….its graphics, that’s why, its graphics engine is compared to that of early PS3/360 roughly so less memory, less load time, also the game doesn’t have nearly as many CGI cutscenes, nearly all of them are in-game graphic cutscenes as such

    so once again, content isn’t always the factor of disc space, high quality graphics are more the reason of it

  • Michael Bincal

    As long as they release a complete bundle after releasing the multi-part series, I’m sold.

  • Dude. I KNOW WHAT CGI IS. JEEZ. I’m not stupid. Well why did FF8 and FF9 need 4 discs then? They didn’t have that many CGI scenes. They had much better graphics than Final Fantasy 7 which is also a factor in the space used. Why doesn’t CGI count as content? Content means something that’s in something. CGI is in a game, so it’s content. Also, physical copy, one combined game, same difference. All I’m trying to say is that it doesn’t matter as long as we get the game. I still don’t see anything wrong with it. As I said before beggars can’t be choosers. Most of us asked for a remake and we’re getting one but it’s still not enough. I mentioned earlier that I would even buy it twice if they made a physical version or a bundle along with the one by one episodic release.

    Also you said “isn’t always” which means it’s still a factor. Stop making it seem like CGI is the only thing and then changing your story. I never said CGI wasn’t a factor because that counts as content in a game. Nowhere says content is reserved for gameplay only. But still, Tales of Symphonia on gamecube had 2 discs, too but that’s not because of cutscenes, it’s just a big enough game with lots of sidequests and hours of gameplay, with a pretty big world map and voice acting.

  • ADAMJENSEN13

    I didnt know. I tought they make a Assassin game in one year. 🙂
    Thanks for reply.

  • C_Cole 96

    Wow, true true. Don’t remember one Patch

  • C_Cole 96

    PLEASE HAVE ADVENT CHILDREN’s OUTFITS AS UNLOCKABLES!, or hell DLC
    Cloud and Tifa’s outfits were beast

  • Martin Hague

    would it be great if a friend can take over a team member in the game during battle but can still swap between them as we play, the partner could request to swap

  • Rik

    Ridiculous. The Witcher 3 has just been released with over 200 hours gameplay with 30 hours more on the way and Square Enix are saying they cannot possibly do a 40 hour remake as one game. This is a blatant way to try and milk their best selling game for all its worth. If the extended version has decent content then fair play but I’ll be annoyed if they extend it by throwing in mindless filler like collecting hundreds of feathers or something dumb and boring like Ubisoft does.

  • Aj Gamble

    maybe, just maybe they throwing in the remake of the whole story like crisis core,

    and so on which is why they going the route they’re going. now i admit i’m happy either way but don’t make it just digital it better be with disc. Dope dlc and all of that great stuff. Now game play better not be like ff type 0 that was a knock off a bootleg dynasty warriors battle system that had no business in anything final fantasy related.

    I seen alot of ff games come and brought shame to me being a great fan of all the games until x-2 which after that made me cry out of disgrace of being a fan.I hope this is square enix saying we’re back from soul searching and now we’re gonna cause the biggest bang in recent gaming history. So, I’m going into this with a make or break a company situation. Holding square enix to very very high expectations to me they been too lax with the ff games.
    Sorry for making this so long ppl but i needed to get this off my chest, because it felt like they saying since we craped on all the recent ff games. This us making up for it….

  • Bob

    I don’t much care if they milk FF7 into multi parts but linking it with the wider universe it not something they should be doing, it’s generally accepted that the side stories, games, animations have all been of a poor standard, CC while a great game in terms of gameplay the extra bits that were added to the story were stupid, would you really try to kill your friend just because you mutated two extra legs?

  • Justice V

    Advent, Last Order, and Crisis Core I still consider good parts/additions to the story, mainly because they were all actually written by Nojima and I really enjoyed all of them. Angeal trying to fight against Zacks wasn’t really him wanting to kill him, but his guilt and thinking that he was a monster leading him to want to be destroyed. But who knows maybe I’m in the minority of wanting the stuff from CC to be more ingrained in FFVII:R, but I also really liked Zack from my first play through of VII way back in 97 and especially in Erhgeiz heh.