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Final Fantasy XV update roadmap revealed By Erren Van Duine on December 7, 2016 at 1:11 AM

Square Enix has revealed an update road map of sorts covering future developments for Final Fantasy XV. In addition to adjustments specifically targeting chapter 13, the company is planning a number of free updates to flesh out several late game event scenes and other quality of life adjustments.

First up, their short-term goals include improving chapter 13 by increasing the strength of the Ring magic. Mid-term goals include improving the story in the latter half by having fully voiced event scenes. This is a mid-term goal due to localization logistics.

The team will also tackle long-term goals such as allowing important characters from the story to be playable. They’re also thinking about adding an avatar system to the mix where you can create your own character.

Additionally, New Game Plus, low level runs, invincibility options and a font size increase will be added to the game.

Here’s the full press release and message from Hajime Tabata, courtesy of Gematsu:

Thank you for playing Final Fantasy XV. Having shipped five million copies worldwide, Final Fantasy XV was truly able to achieve great results. To the many of you who purchased the game, I would like to express my sincerest thanks.

Currently, I am hearing that an exceedingly large bunch of players around the world are enjoying the game to their heart’s content. All of the staff are truly happy that with how content users are with this new way to play Final Fantasy.

As promised from before release, Final Fantasy XV is not going to be released and then that’s the end of it. From here one, we will continue to update the game to provide a richer gameplay experience to players around the world. And as thanks for surpassing five million copies, we decided to strengthen the update plan considerably beyond what we originally planned, and will share a concrete roadmap.

These are short-term, mid-term, and long-term updates separate from the previously reported downloadable content that make the Final Fantasy XV gameplay experience even richer and get you playing longer, together with updates based on requests from players after release, that we will offer free of charge.

Final Fantasy XV Update Roadmap

Short-term goals

First, we will further increase the gameplay satisfaction level of Chapter 13. For that reason, we have already started work on many enhancements, such as significantly enhancing the power of ring magic and so on. We will announce details on these enhancements and when we plan to offer this update at a later time.

Mid-term goals

We will enhance the presentation of the second half of the game, and further enhance the satsifaction level of the story experience. For example, we plan to add event scenes that depict things like, “Why does the character Ravus follow that fate?” Since we’re doing localization work to have voice support in all languages for the the added event scenes, we’re taking this on as a mid-term goal. Project details will be announced once they have been decided.

Long-term goals

We will make important characters that appear in the main story of the game available to use as playable characters. Also, we will consider adding an avatar system to create an original character to play the game. In addition to this, we plan to actively continue updates so that players can enjoy Final Fantasy XV over a long period of time.

Others

Play a new game while carrying over your status from a cleared game. We will offer various items that expand the breadth of gameplay, like for low-level clears and invincible suits. We will increase the font size so that messages are easier to read. We will offer content such as boss battles complete with rewards and achievements, limited time mob hunts, etc. in order for you to enjoy the game live.

It should be noted that the already announced downloadable content will be released as originally planned.

  • FFXV Holiday Pack
  • FFXV Booster Pack
  • FFXV Episode Gladiolus
  • FFXV Episode Ignis
  • FFXV Episode Prompto
  • FFXV Online Expansion Pack: Companion

On behalf of the staff and all players around the world, we hope you will enjoy Final Fantasy XV even more. Thank you for your continued support for Final Fantasy XV and the Final Fantasy series.

FFXV Director Hajime Tabata

Via: Gamer.ne.jp, NeoGAF.

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  • Aulix Indragonz

    so basically the current game is incomplete but they still released it anyway because the delay has been too long?

  • Luke Watts

    Who gives a shit at this point! anyone with a passion for this title and half a brain has played it already and hate it, fixing it at this point is just ridiculous. The damage is done you morons.

  • Aulix Indragonz

    this honestly make me want to stop playing until the game is patched

  • Shirou

    Yep, exactly like that, it’s at the point you can release it and have 90% of the burden of you, It’s in the state you can release it without issues and people can play and enjoy it as it is. This is also why I suspect why we don’t hear anything about PC release yet. my guess is they will fully finish the game in next months/year then make a complete version on pc including everything released so far. I’m waiting for PC version, I don’t have current get consoles. I’m very eager to play this to the point I’m suffering I cannot right now >.>

  • Shirou

    Just what I though just now. I’m the type of person who plays every game just one time, I fully complete it 100% then never returns to it because I don’t enjoy it, I remember storyline for years like I would be playing it yesterday so I don’t enjoy it anymore if I play it the second time. This is a bad news for people who playing now and finish it in it’s current state since new people after those patches will have completely different experience :/ (I wouldn’t want to play like that and if I had access to the game right now I would be troubled as well as to what to do)

  • Randy Marsh

    Wow, you really have some major anger issues there buddy. I’d suggest keeping calm and breathing.

  • Anton Villarica Lagda

    How about the Patch for PS4 PRO 60fps?? Where is it?

  • It is already beautiful enough why even bother.

  • Jesus Christ

    I don’t know how I truly should take this news.

    On the positive side, at least the game getting better treatment.

    On the negative side, it’s quite embarrassing knowing they have to “patch things up” after all that waiting and and it feels like they are in a never ending path to try to make it up.

    I see how this game is getting the benefit of these type of patches and FFXIII didn’t.

    Honestly, they need to make these patch free.

  • Jesus Christ

    Yeah when I see comparison videos, I honestly only see extreme nitpicker to choose PRO. What a waste of money.

  • Noctis

    At this point just remake it and make Versus.

    Spoiler







    Who wnats to know what happens to people that will die anyway….this company is full of crap!

  • Artemis Polara

    Well this DOES help fix some of the issues I was having with the game… Now for the following:
    -Let us explore Tenebrae
    -Make Ravus a boss during the first encounter with him
    -Allow more of Altissia to be explored
    -Allow exploration of time-skip Lucis
    -Allow more exploration of Nifleheim (less Linear stuff)
    -Give us more enemy types
    -Add a few more weapon types for fun
    -Give us Aerial recovery
    -Faster recovery times
    -Longer Epilogue and more clear answers on the ending
    -GLAUCA!!!!!
    -Verstael in more than one cutscene
    -More scenes with Iedolas

  • Randy Marsh

    Ha! Sitxy fps with the Luminous Engine on PS4? Yeah, can you tell me where you got the nuclear powered PS4 Pro to run that thing? Just wait for the inevitable PC port for that kind of magic buddy.

  • Codes McGodes

    I want to believe they’ll fix the story. I really do. But I can’t help but wonder what’s the point? We’ve already played it, we’ve already beaten it, we already know what happens. If they “fix” the story, we’ll have to play it again just to see if it’s up to scratch and even then it may not be.

    This company is such a mess.

  • Noctis

    excactly, why even bother? we know what happens to them so I don`t see the point of knowing what they did at this point….with that shit ending

  • Breathless

    Sooooooo basically my slow af progression on main story may be a blessing in disguise? Ok then… xD (I mean. I’m up to ch5 at lv45 already, and from what I noticed so far, those MSQs are underwhelmingly short, I’m basically apprehensive about finishing too quick.)

    On one hand, more things to come is always good. More options, more content, more more – in itself it’s not a bad thing. On the other hand… yes, the delay was already too long. The extra two months, they did promise no day1 patch, and we did get a day1 patch. Now with even more things on the horizon… what was delivered as the retail game then? And the DLCs – the holiday and booster packs have already been said to be free for everyone, I just hope the season pass doesn’t lose even more of its value.

    And at the same time, I’d much rather see some non-content stuff fixed or tweaked first: hotkeys for certain options, map improvements, (active) quest handling, Prompto’s photos….. It’s all nice and dandy that more content is being added, but if these annoyances remain, more content won’t necessarily contribute to “a better experience”.

  • Breathless

    I don’t think everyone’s already completed the game…

  • Artemis Polara

    -Oh and maybe alternate endings?
    -More unique boss fights (again, like Glauca?)
    -More tours
    -More interesting sidequests
    -More times Cor joins your party
    -An actual battle arena
    -Luna Playable/Party member
    -More of Insomnia to explore (You did create a model for most of it so why not?)

  • MasterLink

    “At this point just remake it and make Versus.”

    I have bee saying this from the beginning. You finished working on FFXV ( The fucking garage we got ), now use all assets you made,the engine you created, etc, to remake Versus with Nomura at helm.

  • Artemis Polara

    That’s just wishful thinking. Plus you know it’ll have the same ending since odds are that was Nomura’s planned ending.

  • Noctis

    Fuck this game!

    We wanted Stella! We wanted Versus, and what we got? an half completed game that needs to be patched!

    And this whole sacrifice nonsense gets on my nerves!

  • MasterLink

    So basically:

    ” Give us the other half of the game”

  • Codes McGodes

    In addition:
    -Proper integration of Kingsglaive (actually including the signing ceremony would be nice)
    -Story references to Nyx and the Glaive in general
    -Give Libertus an in-game appearance
    -Include the content from the Dawn trailers and the Omen trailer
    -Let us return to and explore Gralea in full (with the Regalia Type-F if possible)
    -More scenes with Luna, including her traumatic childhood
    -More scenes with Cor
    -More scenes with Regis, especially scenes of him during Noct’s childhood
    -Reason to believe Noctis and Luna are actually in love since they haven’t even seen each other in 12 years
    -Explanation of who Izunia was
    -More info about Ardyn’s past
    -More info about the Starscourge
    -More scenes with the Kings of the Lucii
    -Insomnia pre-invasion would be nice as well

  • Noctis

    So basically make Versus

  • MasterLink

    BS. We don’t know what is the ending of Versus XIII.

  • MasterLink

    It will be better.

  • Noctis

    Nomura had in mind to have a Dark Noctis at some point as he did with Sora with his dark transformation.

    Instead we got the Ring that practically had no sense

  • NewestType

    PLEAZE SQUARE! I WANT A ROEGADAYN AS AN AVATAR!

  • Artemis Polara

    We technically will know when the ultimania guides come out and I’m still certain the ending we got was going to be similar to the one we do have.

  • Noctis

    They changed the story a thousand of times since 2006 even in the last months they did changes.

    We don`t know what Nomura had in mind

  • Randy Marsh

    Screw your Roegadayn! Give us lalafels in FFXV, nothing wrong with having a group of lalas fighting in Cleigne to that rocking battle theme. I’m kidding fyi.

  • Codes McGodes

    To be honest, they would have been better off releasing it episodically. Releasing the beginning first, the middle second and the ending third would have made sense. Releasing the beginning and the end first, and the middle part second makes significantly less sense.

  • Artemis Polara

    And, again, I’m sure we’ll find out eventually. Also I’m still going to approach this optimistically.

  • Jesus Christ

    “This company is such a mess.”

    Isn’t it funny that the game is meant to be damage control for XIII trilogy. But from what you’re saying, it seems as if they are doing damage control for THIS game. LOL Sigh

    messy boots square enix

  • Codes McGodes

    I think Iris is a Lalafell. She’s very small.

  • Jesus Christ

    I want this. I want that. And this. And that.

    How fitting it is near Christmas. Maybe Square Enix will finally announce Final Fantasy Versus XIII for the true fans.

    #TROLLFACE

  • Noctis

    haha yeah hopefully

  • Jesus Christ

    Noctis, I’m kidding. I think we really should move on. Let’s look please be excited for XVI LOL

    sigh

  • MasterLink

    How can you be so certain? This game ( the one we got ) is not what Nomura wanted to create. Tabata and his team take some elements for from Versus and the scrip from Nojima and change them.

  • Artemis Polara

    Admittedly I am asking for a bit. Though for them to reverse a bunch and bring Versus back would be just dumb 😛
    (I just want a boss fight with Glauca) (Totally want to avenge Regis, Luna’s mom, and Gladio’s dad… Ya’ know?)

  • Noctis

    I know, but after 10 years we got this…..I`m just not ready to let Versus go.

    Well we have 7 remake, thank god the story is there and Tabata can`t kill them all off

  • Randy Marsh

    Pray it is true the mighty Hiroyuki Ito might be doing FFXVI. Shouldn’t be as hectic, since the man did FFVI, IX, and XII.

  • Jesus Christ

    yeah I saw your list and I got scared LOL. If you needed ALL OF THAT STUFF to make you happy. Just tells me how much of a let down the game is for you. And you’re not the only one.

    I don’t blame you either. All these years and ridiculous hype engender unreasonable expectations and WISHLIST from everybody. And the moment the game comes out we are rushed to find out whether or not our Christmas gifts are in the game. Seemingly it isn’t? It’s sad really.

    🙂

  • Artemis Polara

    The fact that they’re listening to feedback and trying to fix things is a good thing in my mind. But you know they’ll NEVER go back to Versus, it’ll cost WAAAAAY to much.

  • MasterLink

    I thought Glauca was dead.

  • Jesus Christ

    I suggest you sing Frozen Let it Go

    Because you really need to LET IT GO. Keeping it to yourself is so toxic. Just let Versus go. For all we know it could very well have been trash. Sorry.

  • Artemis Polara

    My birthday is next week so it’s doubly important to me 😛

  • Noctis

    Who agrees that Tabata should work on the next The Texas Chain Saw Massacre?

  • Artemis Polara

    While they could spin it that way. I honestly thought he survived Kingsglaive and was just seriously injured

  • Jesus Christ

    “The fact that they’re listening to feedback and trying to fix things is a good thing in my mind.” But doesn’t it beg the question, why didn’t thy listen when they were developing it the whole time? Perhaps they had their own huge ambition and was unwilling to share for that long period of time and wanted to surprised us. Now look what happened. >_>

  • Artemis Polara

    Well they technically were, remember the changes between Duscae and the final product

  • Codes McGodes

    I know right? Square-Enix tends to deal in extremes. They had linear gameplay that was criticized in FFXIII, so they went the polar opposite route and made FFXV super open world. No sidequests in 13? Only sidequests in 15! Lengthy story in 13? No story in 15! Actually, maybe that’s why none of the story content was present 15. Maybe since it was originally derived from 13’s mythos, they didn’t even want to chance associating the game with 13 anymore so they dropped the entire story just to be safe.

  • Jesus Christ

    No, no Christmas presents for you! Stop wishful thinking! lol

  • Jesus Christ

    demo is a tiny slice of the whole product, whatever they fixed was so specific within context of the demo.

  • Jesus Christ

    LOL the hilarity is real! Re mention when when Nova Crystlalis post actual review article

  • Artemis Polara

    I do think you need to chill a bit. I gave the game a 7.6/10 (I really wanted it to between a 9 and 10)
    The fact that they’re listening to feedback and want to make it better is good. They spent too much money on this game not to make to this I guess.

  • Artemis Polara

    I mean they changed the weapon switching system to what we have now based on feedback from then.

  • Artemis Polara

    So you don’t like anyone sharing the same month as your birth? T_T

  • Codes McGodes

    While it’s true that we don’t know what Nomura had in mind, it’s safe to assume the ending was similarly tragic. I think some of the darker Shakespearean themes ended up keeping with the game as damn near everyone died.

  • Jesus Christ

    Sounds good!

    OR maybe they should let Rockstar Games develop it 😉

    jk… maybe?

  • Jesus Christ

    tiny detail right? People are complaining how story sucks. You can’t ask them to change story in a demo yes? Story is huge in game experience.

  • Artemis Polara

    Exactly, Nomura wanted it to be dark and Shakespearean. Have you read Hamlet? Or Romeo and Juliet? They ended in fairly similar ways when it comes to the main characters.

  • Codes McGodes

    He is dead, but it wouldn’t be hard to pull a Rufus and retcon his death. Heavily injured in the rubble would be easier to believe than “I survived the Shin-ra explosion but I won’t tell you how”.

  • Artemis Polara

    Well I do want them to fill out what feels like missing chunks. I WANT EXPOSITION!!!!

  • Jesus Christ

    Can you guys please wrap your spoiler content in spoiler tags so this thread doesn’t closed because we don’t know how to NOT spoil. Please.

  • Noctis

    Its just as I played an Horror FF

  • Noctis

    how do i cover them in black?

  • Jesus Christ

    I think therein lies another problem. it’s opening a can of worms. The moment they open doors for feedback because you don’t like the game, you’ll find so many people asking for all sorts of stuff, they will never truly satisfy anybody.

  • Jesus Christ
  • Randy Marsh

    You do realize you’re being a big over dramatic drama queen at this very moment right? Like not even Final Fantasy fanboys like myself act this way. Yes, we get it, you wanted Versus XIII. Hell, I wanted Versus XIII. However, you’re never getting Versus XIII despite how loud you heavily breath when you pound on your keyboard writing these angry comments. Just remember that.

  • Artemis Polara

    True, though I do feel they need to fill in the gaps in the story. Also they need to fill out the second half of the game so it doesn’t feel so rushed.

  • Codes McGodes

    The only way Versus could tangibly become a thing is by inventing brand new characters entirely and having them play out the events of Versus. FFXV is FFXV though and that’s not going to change. It can only improve with the additional cutscenes [hopefully].

  • Noctis
  • Jesus Christ

    And when you find it satisfying they did what you ask. Another person comes alone and ask for a different take of the story you don’t find satisfying. What then!?

    The story is what it is. To some it’s a mistake. But I don’t think they should change it. It is what it is now. Move on to XVI and start new story.

  • Artemis Polara

    Indeed, we didn’t get Versus, we got XV. And honestly I’m happy they’re trying to improve it. If they spend the next year or two patching and making it a complete package. I won’t mind. 😛

  • Omegataco

    And how many times have you replayed any of the other FF games?

  • Noctis

    hahah I don`t…..but your right i will calm down

  • Artemis Polara

    Oh I’m sure they’re already working on XVI. They have more than one team ya’ know.
    Anyway I still want the gaps filled in. That stuff is kind of important.

  • Noctis

    LOL

    Noctis is dead

  • Codes McGodes

    Well to their credit, the only thing people are heavily complaining about is the story. And there’s no way we could have known how lacking the story is before actually playing it. If anything, we were encouraging the direction they were going with every amazing trailer they released so imagine our surprise when so much of what we were applauding wasn’t even in the game.

  • MasterLink

    “inventing brand new characters entirely and having them play out the events of Versus”

    I know where you are coming from, but I disagree.

  • Jesus Christ

    “If they spend the next year or two patching and making it a complete package.” I find this statement, if it were to come true a really sad future. it speaks volumes of the game now.

  • Artemis Polara

    Well I’m being realistic given it would take quite a while to create those assets, gameplay features, and scenes

  • Codes McGodes

    Several, but mostly because a) I enjoyed them and b) because I’m obsessed. I don’t think the average gamer plays a game more than once, especially if it’s a game they didn’t enjoy.

  • Artemis Polara

    Not to mention, we’ve waited 10 years…. Another two can make a big difference

  • MasterLink

    To be honest, I find it ridiculous that we will get “the other half of the game” within the next two years.

  • Jesus Christ

    I’m not referring to realistic timeframe. I’m thinking it’s sad future because if they do make all these patches to “FIX” the darn game, that’s very sad on the game how I see it. If they need ALL THAT FIXING? really? 2 years? My goodness. please be excited all over again.

    I’m on the team moving on to XVI.

  • Noctis

    Just an question for people who played the whole game!

    Spoiler:

    Who wants an alternate ending to FFXV, with Noctis and Luna alive or at least Noctis

  • Artemis Polara

    Eh, don’t know what to tell you. I just want the stuff which was happening off screen to be on screen. Ya’ know?

  • Jesus Christ

    Take this the best way, but I feel like you’re one of those fan that never want to let go. LOL.

    Why are you hung up on the past? Versus is never gonna be a thing. I don’t believe it will. Why do you allow them to make you wait more time? I don’t get it.

    I ask this respectfully.

  • Artemis Polara

    It could be an optional boss fight against his spirit, I wouldn’t care. He was powerful as hell and deserved to be a boss fight.

  • Codes McGodes

    Well, they spent three years fixing 14, and dedicated two sequels to fixing 13 [not that it helped a whole lot]. I could talk shit about Square-Enix all day but I’ll say one thing. They hate failure, and when a game’s brand is damaged they do their best to fix it.

    Personally I don’t mind that they want to patch it, as long as they succeed. They have so many teams within the company that it’s doubtful it will affect FFXVI’s development. And personally, I’d kind of prefer FFXV patches to half-assed direct sequels anyway, which is their usual course of action in between main series games. In an ideal world, they could spend the next two years improving FFXV via DLC and patches while getting us ready for FFXVI. But who knows?

  • Artemis Polara

    Ummm… Jesus… I’m not one who’s been saying “BRING NOMURA BACK!!!!” or “GO BACK TO VERSUS!”
    I just want them to fix the problems with the current game and story for what we do have. They have other teams working on XVI already I assume.

  • MasterLink

    Everyone want that, but the question is: is it really worthy to work on other half within the next two years? Wouldn’t be better to move on and work on the next one (XVI)?

  • Artemis Polara

    They have more than one team? and odds are they have another team developing XVI.
    Also once they decide to say “It’s done!” They’ll likely re-release some super special edition one two blu ray discs

  • Jesus Christ

    Well, would you agree 14 is a bit of an exception because it’s a game that meant to have continue support and updates.

    When we talk about flag ship games, in the past, what we get is what we get. Only now through technological advances they can release updates to “fix” stuff from already released game.

    And I wouldn’t go and say 13 sequels are meant to fix 13. LR was not so popular, heck it did the worst.

    “Personally I don’t mind that they want to patch it, as long as they succeed. ” I understand you sentiment, but I feel like they are going in for a futile effort. “as long as they succeed” on whose standards? Good luck with that. The game is out, lots of people like it, lots don’t. How you want it to be is gonna be taken very different from those who already like it and perhaps those who don’t. It’s never ending drama.

  • Codes McGodes

    I didn’t have a problem with the ending to be honest. I had a problem with the complete and utter lack of exposition. Like I said before, Nomura’s original vision for the game was very dark and very Shakespearean, so I’m not at all surprised that it ended up being a tragedy. It just wasn’t a very good tragedy because so many things in the game happened without cause, explanation, exposition or reaction from any of the characters.

  • NewestType

    Tbh, they should try to import all FF XIV races! A group of lalafells riding in the regalia? Instant classic.

  • Artemis Polara

    Since I’ve had to say this a few times now:
    Square Enix has more than one team working on Final Fantasy. Odds are another team is working on Final Fantasy XVI already.

  • MasterLink

    Well, I prefer they develop Versus in this case.

  • Codes McGodes

    They’d better be. If I have to wait another ten years for FFXVI I’m gonna scream.

  • Artemis Polara

    They won’t. Too much money to do that.

  • MasterLink

    I believe that too, but sometimes things not goes in their favor, so they throw everyone on a single project ( at present , not likely to happen though, we hope so ).

  • Artemis Polara

    Beauty is that much of that (Not saying all) can be patched in.

  • Jesus Christ

    Another ten years wouldn’t hurt. They just want to do damage control for XV. They just want to perfect the game.

    …. #trollface. LOL

  • MasterLink

    I think it will be cheaper, since , you know, they already have assets (XV) , the engine and the team who know how to work on it.

  • Artemis Polara

    I do get many of us are just being whiny that the game isn’t what we hoped for. I’m still happy they want to improve it and will support that sort of behavior.

  • Codes McGodes

    I would agree with that. But all the same, if they want to improve it, I’m not really against the idea. I don’t really see the point to be honest because like I said, we’ve already played and beaten it. But if it improves the story enough to warrant subsequent playthroughs, then I’d be happy with that. It’s like when Mass Effect 3 got a new ending. In most cases, I agree that a game is what it is, and bitching about small criticisms usually doesn’t warrant a rewrite. But in this particular circumstance, I do feel that the story isn’t what they advertised it to be, and that’s my only major problem with the game. So that’s the only improvement that I would like to see made.

  • Artemis Polara

    And many people will cast it aside thinking it’s a lazy attempt to appeal to a set group of people who can’t accept what they already worked on.
    Not to mention those people working on it would likely feel bitter about having to basically redo the game.

  • Codes McGodes

    Exactly. And I’m hoping that’s what the planned patches are for. I think I would actually really enjoy the story if they just filled in all the gaps. I didn’t think it was like, a stupid story by any means. It just didn’t make any damn sense.

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  • Noctis

    thanks Jesus

  • Artemis Polara

    Indeed, the story is good, it just needs to be told better.

  • Noctis

    he mine too 😀

  • Noctis

    I would have liked if Noctis could go berserk with his red eyes as in his very first trailer 2006.

    And what about his sleeping problems…where he constantly takes naps….

    Not one scene was shown where he talks as child to his father very sad.

    Oh and of course the dawn trailer nothing has been shown of that

  • I agree it’s very sad. I was a little disappointed myself with how short it seemed but I did enjoy it a lot and I honestly would love to play more of it and get more stuff from it. Even if it takes years, I guess. It gives me a reason to continue playing it because I loved a lot of the things about it. Fixing and patching things up, adding more stuff, sure, it’s not what was initially planned, but I’m not complaining if I can get something from it.

    Let it be to satisfy the players or the development team themselves, I don’t really care I guess as long as I can get more stuff from FFXV that we never got from the beginning. I mean, I don’t like that it’s being patched or I have to wait, but I mean I can complain now but later when I get it, it’ll make a big difference how I might feel so I’ll keep my judgments for later.

    That will also give me time for other games and the wait for XVI wouldn’t be long and arduous.

  • Option to choose which summon I can summon, please, Tabata… And a Bestiary.

  • Yuntu

    Great news. Though the story stuff should have been there from the start, but this just clearly shows that the game got rushed out. Glad they give Tabata the money to Adress some issues.

  • Shinobuden

    At least they care enough to update it. Many devs just go “well whatever” and leave it as it is. There’s always NG+ for those who’ve completed the game so you can keep all your stuff when playing through it again. I know I will.

  • Shinobuden

    Yeah, many people are being really whiny. But that’s the FF fanbase for you. It’s largely inhabited by entitled people. Still, there are people who have legitimate criticisms that I agree with. I still enjoyed the hell out of XV though.

    I’m glad they care enough to update it and address the missing pieces. Not many devs would go that far.

  • Victor Maciel

    I just want guest characters to be freely recrutable after we beat the game </3

  • david paw

    The patches are free I think.

  • Victor Maciel

    So you basically wanted an dark-cliche-anime character then.

  • Artemis Polara

    Indeed. I enjoyed the game but definitely felt a bunch was scrapped due to possible time constraints. (Maybe more went on behind the scenes despite them being open with the active time reports?)

  • Artemis Polara

    Aranea will sometimes randomly join you but it’s only happened to me once. (I would like to know how that triggers since it would be fun to have guest characters as needed)

  • Shinobuden

    The ending makes sense when you read between the lines.

    Noctis was never being groomed to be king; he was being groomed to die. No one but Luna, Gentiana and probably Regis (due to how solemn he appeared to be around Noctis, and because of what he said in the ending) knew Noctis’s true fate all along. Ardyn also knew Noctis was the Chosen King.
    This is made clear when Bahamut explains what Noctis has to do. This knowledge makes the tragic ending make much more sense. To me at least.
    I’m not ashamed to admit I cried. The only FF ending that has made me cry.

    Despite saying that, I agree it could have used a better explanation for those who didn’t understand the ending at all or the parts leading up to it. One of the reasons the game is getting a lot of undeserved flak.

  • Victor Maciel

    Yeah, i have encountered Aranea on Duscae. But it would be neat if we could recruit them permanently to acompany the party. I would love to run around with Iris or Cor in my team!

  • Shinobuden

    I encountered her twice during night in Duscae. I was surprised the first time she appeared.
    I agree, I’d happily replace Ignis and Prompto with Cor and Aranea respectively. Gladio is a pretty good powerhouse and has good skills. I’d consider Iris too if she could do more than throw her moogle at enemies 😛

  • Shinobuden

    I wouldn’t be surprised if things were scrapped. They had to push the game out considering how long it had been in development and them pushing the release date back two months. That and I doubt they could afford to sink more money into it than they already had what with the massive marketing campaign. I don’t even think Destiny’s marketing campaign was that big. I don’t even dare to imagine how much money SE poured into it.

  • Noctis

    yes

  • Artemis Polara

    So you mean Sasuke -_-

  • Noctis

    I mean Noctis in his prime form:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU

    ^This^

  • Artemis Polara

    So no personality, just killing things, and taking a nap… -_-
    Also Nomura himself said Noctis would try to act cool around others but would open up to his friends. Also the concept of brotherhood was part of it well in the versus era. So honestly what Tabata gave us feels like an accurate representation of what Nomura was going to do.

  • Average Afro

    Why? There’s a perfectly good system as to how they’re summoned, and it ties in nicely with the “fantasy based on reality”.

    Bestiary I think we all want.

  • Artemis Polara

    Unless you get Nomura to say otherwise, I’m not going to believe you

  • Noctis

    what Tabata gave us is shit

  • Artemis Polara

    You can hate on it all you want. While I say XV is flawed, I think the character of Noctis and his friends are great.
    You need to cool your jets and don’t let your blind fanboy-ism ruin what can and is being improved. Oh and by the way, it’s not like I haven’t been following this game from the beginning and know every detail and interview. Not that it wasn’t difficult during the Versus era with Nomura giving so little info.
    Anyway XV is an incomplete package but a good one. Not a great one (But clearly you can’t settle for anything short of PERFECT).
    I pity you, who clearly sits in their ivory tower of perfect who demands all be as they want it. Whoa is you, whoa is you.
    Yes, I’m insulting you at this point because you’re entitlement is really childish.

    I ask for improvements to what we have due to the current game lacking clarity. What you want is to go back in time and clearly try for the impossible since SE were never going to take Versus as seriously then due to them being up their own Asses with XIII and the KH spin offs.

    So really, get the fuck over it.

    Thank you, and have a nice night.

  • Artemis Polara

    Forgive me Jesus, for I have sinned… And not really sorry about it either. I let one of these blind fanboys get me miffed enough to tell them off. Is it wrong of me to take joy in this? Is it wrong of me to tell them they’re a crying man child of entitlements?

  • Noctis

    I`m not the only one that wants the old version of Versus.

    I will never get over it.

    I will forever wait for Versus….

  • Artemis Polara

    Well good luck with that in fantasy land. I’ll enjoy XV in the real world.

  • Aulix Indragonz

    i don’t care about the story
    what i need is tenebrae and niflheim to be fully explorable..
    only lucis as fully explorable map considering that huge world map SE shared sometime ago is kind of underwhelming

  • Noctis

    I played that game also and finished all side dungeons…not that I didn`t like the gameplay. It will be forever my wishful thinking

  • Jesus Christ

    You’re on the naughty list, so no VERSUS for you.

  • Jesus Christ

    Good they should be after the ridiculous price tag for the game.

    And I don’t wanna hear no bull bull from them saying we need to set price for the patches cause we need money nonsense cause if they really needed money don’t spend all that money on that Kingsglaive.

  • Jesus Christ

    You’re also on the naughty list this year. Santa ain’t visiting you either.

    haha! Just fyi, we blew this comment section from like 30 ish comments to 100+ in less than 30 minutes a few hours ago.

    🙂

  • Jintae

    sweet.

  • NoctLightCloud

    Aranea as a playable character please! I’m in love with her♡

  • Victor Maciel

    I like Iris because she is a fun character and i ship her hard with Noct.

    But i agree she needs a gameplay boost. Cor and Aranea are really badass characters too. Gladio is like one of the best party members. High HP, def, and has massive damage skills.

  • These could lead to FFXV-2. Oh well. Same excuse from FFXIII times. “The universe is so large so we had to make it a trilogy”. I wouldn’t hate a sequel but I’m so tired of half-assed games expanding into sequels with lesser qualities.

  • Soldier Blue

    Make a sector of Insomnia playable, add Ifrit, Odin as available summons.

  • Victor Maciel

    I like the summon system too. When the battle is going bad and then i hear Nox Aeterna playing and the magic particles beginning to circle around, its really epic.

    And it makes sense since summons in FFXV have mind on their own and even talk to the characters. THEM have to come to help you when they want. Gives them a “magestic” feeling i think.

    I really miss a bestiary too.

  • robin hecto

    extra content sounds sweet but what about a new World Map, it looks terrible the way it is now. All pixelated and dirty…

  • Victor Maciel

    I don’t like souless characters killing things. I like characters that know how to cry, know when to get angry, know how to smile, know how to have fucking feelings. Like the XV Noctis, this is what makes a good protagonist, a hero for a story.

    The only thing they need to improve is the narrative, the story itself is good. But the game lacked explanations, cutscenes, etc. But the characters are far too better than Versus XIII and his “LOOK HOW I’M A DARK GAEM” bullshit.

  • Artemis Polara

    You mean Bahamut

  • Noctis

    talk to characters? When? did I miss something?

  • Soldier Blue

    No, I meant Odin, though since Bahamut in already in the game, why not?

  • Victor Maciel

    [SPOILERS]

    Titan and Bahamut talks to Noct. And Leviathan talk with Luna when she is summoning her.

  • Artemis Polara

    But you can’t use Bahamut outside of one battle

  • •december

    The fact that this game just came out and it’s on-going,
    adventure-wise, just fills my heart with so much joy.

  • •december

    You mean the mini-map?
    I’m liking the grainy feel a lot

  • Noctis

    Yeah but Titan made no sense, what was he talking?

  • Soldier Blue

    So is Ifrit, but they could be made available summons later on.

  • alef321
  • alef321

    https://scontent.fgru5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15259705_1337810606242805_5798414807205946946_o.jpg

    how about some events telling why should I care about Jared? lmao

  • Victor Maciel

    Something like and old tongue from the gods, i think. Summons are not humans.

  • Hezkezl

    I just want them to make it so people can resize the screen since a large chunk of players have text being cutoff on the right side of their screens.. : Not everyone has the ability to make their TV do that, and the PS4 does. But FFXV ignores the PS4 screen adjustment for some reason.

  • My main beef with the game is how it drops most of the villains we’ve seen over the years from the plot. If they can fix that then fine.

  • Because Jared was nice old man who never hurt anyone that’s why I cared.

  • I haven’t finished the game, you saying you don’t get all the summons by games end? Why?

  • Somnus92

    They forgot to mention that they should enable players to take on more than one hunt at a time. Seriously, this feature needs to happen.

  • Noctis

    Finl Fantasy XV: An Epic Tale of Death

  • stevenm281

    Holy Shit! I say yes to all of this! Altho, I don’t feel the need to create a character!

    As for the DLC episodes focused on each main party member, I think they will happen during the character’s absence from the main party, as they all got one moment where they have to leave.

    I’m so happy further scenes will be added to the game’s story, but I think its a bit sad for those who don’t have access to the Internet, altho I doubt there is still much people without it.

    Hail FF15 and Square Enix!

  • stevenm281

    I agree that Niflheim and Tenebrae should be explorable.

  • Boss

    pls just leave 15 alone and try to fix all those small problems for 16 – actually just give us our old FF features back (skilltrees, beastarium, real magic, a real fighting system – not a O pressing simulator etc.) and even more important, give us a complet story. Its so obvious that you rushed the story after chapter 8, as its beautiful till than, and loose more or less all sense after.
    I don’t think its worth the effort adding what the plan to add, besides maybe the story dlcs. But at least they seem to try to learn from there mistakes
    Sorry for bad english

  • Soldier Blue

    Whether it’s spoilery territory or not, at some point in the game these two summons show up, but you don’t have real access to them because they can’t be captured like the other ones.

  • Miqote

    Fuck this. I’m pissed. Not only does Chapter 13 suck complete donkey balls, but u mean to tell me the dev team is JUST NOW figuring out how bad it is??? Oh and gameplay in general is TERRIBLE

  • Miqote

    totally agree

  • Ulises

    At least they are trying to fix the game, thumbs up for them.

  • robin hecto

    No i definitely mean the world map.

    When you zoom in, the text gets really pixy, like it’s a wrong and bad quality jpg

  • Larxene howar

    Is anyone else disappointed that FFXV didn’t have a bestiary?
    The creatures and Daemons with well created. I wanted to know more about their lore.

  • stevenm281

    I don’t mind that there isnt, but it would be practical to have one.

  • King Zeus

    Gameplay in general is good.

  • strifev1

    This was probably a UI speed or RAM allocation decision.
    If the map was a higher resolution, there was probably lag between pressing map button and OG PS4 pulling it up.

  • Victor Maciel

    I miss this too. Would be helpful to have a bestiary to consult their element weakness for instance.

  • Victor Maciel

    Please record you just pressing O and wining a battle against an tough enemy without doing anything else. Without warpstriking, using itens, comanding your allies, miding your surrouding to recover, armiger, switching weapons… Well, the list goes on.

  • Boss

    i dunno if ur actually braindead, or u just didnt get the point?

  • Vallen

    Funny how chapter 13 is the bad one lol. The infamous 13!!!

    Not sure the avatar is needed, but this overall sounds great. I have a question, does anyone know where I can post feedback for them to see? I really want to suggest them adding more cut-scenes as seen in the “dawn trailer” and the ability to hang around the citadel area that was in the platinum demo at the end.

  • Jesus Christ

    Erren brought up an interesting point on Twitter: “They want to add a character creation feature to FFXV? Um… this isn’t a MMO…”
    Source: https://twitter.com/ErrenVanDuine/status/806383418422554624

    You know, how Erren said it got me thinking. And it will echo what I have been saying. But I ask this question first, do you think Square Enix is trying to do TOO MUCH to this game? Right? For me, I think it all stems from when we first heard the word “ambition” from Square Enix about this game. Indeed, this game is very ambitious compared to other flagship games, it’s open world (…. ehhh) and it’s real time battle. It used to be open world but not in the sense we see in XV. And it used to be ATV/turn base. Oh and don’t forget they want to make VR experience too. And now they want to keep adding stuff with patches to fix and add new content. Character creation. Is that a smart choice? Better yet, what’s their rationale? Why is it a fitting choice for a game like this?

    Why don’t they add a Iron Chef mini game while they’re at it? Sky’s the limit to them I guess.

  • Zach Hagler

    Right! That was one of my biggest concerns with the game ( next to feeling like several key parts of the story’s second half were missing. ) It’s like they spent too much time trying to build up Ardyn’s motives but forgot everyone else.

  • Starlord

    Even though I love the game for what it is, SE trying to fix certain things fans are crying about is something not many companies do, in fact if people don’t like it, the company just ignores them and moves on to the next game.

    Whether or not they should have had the story right from the get go is something they are trying to rectify. Even though the story as is, is understandable. I know my objective post-Leviathan fight and I am on chapter 10 now.

    This game is still in my top 3 FF games of all time personally, and I am happy they are listening to us still even after he game releases, shows how Tabata as a director cares about its fans and this game!

    Great work Tabby!

  • NoctisStrife87

    At that time, only Luna could understand. After Noct gets into the Cristal he manages to understand it too.

  • bitman

    No, Boss, you’re the wrong one here for thinking that it’s a “O pressing simulator”
    I don’t disagree with them trying to fix aspects about the story and chapter 13, but STILL bitching about the gameplay, saying that it plays just like Kingdom Hearts, that joke got old years ago, and I know you’re gonna keep fighting over it and post angry comments, your kind are very predictable, and I feel very sad for you.
    They’ll keep improving the experience and I’m very happy for them, and all of us that are always positive about the future. But people like you… I’m sorry, man, I hope that one day you’ll actually learn something.
    Until then, keep bitching and fighting in the comments, we’d had moved on by that time.

  • Yuntu

    Don´t forget the game gets a multiplayer DLC. Might as well be for that.

  • Aulix Indragonz

    the gameplay is really good overall
    but yeah seeing how half baked the 2nd half of the game is kinda makes me lose my will to continue playing until this shit is fixed

  • Emorelle

    I wish they did as well however, Having the guide its the one use I will get out of it on my first playthrough. I know we shouldn’t need it but I’m just saying at least it has one

  • Boss

    I dont wanna get to deep into it, cause of the way u argue (“..I know you’re gonna keep fighting over it and post angry comments, your kind are very predictable, and I feel very sad for you.”)
    And i dunno what ur trying to say about KH, as it was way more of a challange then FF15. Nor does it make sense to compare those two.
    Generally, If ur happy with the game especially the story, im glad for you – but for me, as many other people who played more or less all of the final fantasy games, its maybe to simple, to predictable and the gameplay, especially the fights to similiar and therefore getting boring quit early in the game – followed by the fact that the optional endgame bosses are jokes.

  • Emorelle

    I agree. The character creation system is without a doubt for the later planned multiplayer dlc.

  • Snow Covered Kenneth

    THANK YOU!!!! WHO THE FUCK IS JARED?!?!?!?!?

  • NoctisOugiBoogie

    No Tabata gave us the characters Nomura had in mind. Google is your friend.

  • bitman

    As I said, predictable.
    And now you reveal yourself as a Nomura fanboy, dear lord.
    Keep talking, kid, you only make yourself look worse and worse.

  • NoctisOugiBoogie

    I don’t think it’s Tabata’s problem. Sure he hasn’t directed a lot of game but think what one can do when he has to make a single and complete story into one game, which was going to be a trilogy focused in crystal saga. Content story wise was chopped down, Versus was never into full develpment because Nomura was doing other projects every damn time so Tabata had to take all this and make one complete from the scratch game into 4 years. Maybe someone else could do it better, but I don’t think that much better.

  • NoctisOugiBoogie

    So you mean they should have gone with the trilogy Nomura originally wanted.

  • stevenm281

    the man that was taking care of Talcott

  • Codes McGodes

    I found her twice in Leide.

  • Codes McGodes

    Well, I suppose they COULD lead to a sequel, but honestly I just want them to include what was already there. It’s pretty clear that a lot of the story was cut from the game for reasons unknown. Going off of the dawn trailers, the omen trailer and the rebranding trailer, this story was supposed to be much more complex, so if nothing else, I just want more scenes so that the plot is developed better. They could still make a sequel, but I honestly don’t see that happening since most of the cast is dead.

  • Codes McGodes

    Well, it’s not really undeserved if you’re agreeing the game needs a better explanation. I mean, it’s hard to know what Regis was thinking since he was in literally only one scene in the entire game, and that was the opening. Many of the characters were sorely underdeveloped, so the plot was really wayward. Not bad per se, but it didn’t have any exposition so it didn’t make any sense. For example Luna was apparently dying from the Starscourge, but I had no idea because the only time the Starscourge is even mentioned is in some of the (optional) data files scattered throughout Niflheim. And even then you still have to put the pieces together, so it’s never outright stated. Subtlety can be a powerful storytelling mechanic, but only when it’s used in moderation. When the entire story is written in subtlety, most people end up missing the point.

  • Boss

    wtf is Nomura, but even more important, whats fucking wrong with you?!^^

  • •december

    Yeah it does a bit,
    It doesn’t bother me story/gameplay wise

    But it could be updated, maybe Pro version if you’re into that??

  • Yeah. But they didn’t just forget them, they flat out threw them away. Verstael! The scientist of the Imperials. My roommate beat the game and didn’t remember him at all. He’s in literally one scene and never seen again even though he set up their whole army with the inhumane shit he does in his labs.

  • So in reality the only summons you can factually work with in Titan, Shiva, Ramuh and Leviathan. SMH wow….
    I haven’t gotten Carbuncle either and I hit chapter 10 before I went and backtracked. Made worst the only summon I can summon is Ramuh every time.

  • stevenm281

    Carbuncle can only be used on Easy difficulty

  • Shinobuden

    Just because I agree that the game needs a better explanation doesn’t mean all the flak it gets is deserved. The game gives you all the information you need, and I was able to piece together pretty much all of it. The presentation of said information is what needs some work as it is a bit jumbled but it’s still there. It may deserve some flak for how jumbled it is, but I certainly don’t believe it deserves all the flak it gets. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that point.
    He was in two technically, although he didn’t speak in one. It may be hard to tell what he’s thinking and he doesn’t express it in words, but to me he seemed very solemn when speaking to Noctis before left. This could just have been me reading too much into it though and he was simply solemn because he knew what was going to happen with Niflheim and all.
    It kind of all fell into place for me near the end though with that information. I guess some people just interpret things differently, but for me it all made sense. The only thing that doesn’t make sense is why Luna was dying from absorbing the Starscourge while it made Ardyn extremely powerful. I don’t think Ardyn was an oracle though, he simply stated he was a healer. Oh well, that’s beside the point.

    I don’t entirely agree that the entire story is written in subtlety since it does shed light on what Noctis’s true purpose was all along and what Ardyn’s motivations were. Ardyn is pretty much the one who set the entire chain of events in the game in motion, so knowing his motivations brings sense to the story. I dunno though. It feels like it’s kinda pointless for us to be discussing this. To each their own, but that’s how I feel at least.

  • Shinobuden

    What point? Literally all you said was that the battle system is a O pressing simulator…which is wrong. There is so much more to the battle system in XV that if you seriously believe all you have to do is hold O, and I’d like to see a recording of you doing nothing but holding O in battle against tough enemies, then I’m sorry but don’t talk about things you don’t know anything about. It makes you come across as extremely unintelligent.

  • Starlord

    I have a feeling they will be adding those as explorable places through DLC. They did say they want the enhance the presentation of the second half of the game. I think they are directly hinting towards that.

    Will see though. Game was really fun for what it was :D.

  • Shinobuden

    Were you not paying attention when playing the game?

  • Shinobuden

    Eh, she’s a little bit too clingy for me. Especially when she’s all clingy on a guy she knows is about to get hitched. She’s cute though and I like her cheerful personality.

    Yeah, that’s why Noctis, Gladio, Cor and Aranea is my dream team in XV. They’re all good damage dealers and have cool skills. I could totally see Iris with a skill that cheers Noctis on and gives him a buff though.

  • Shinobuden

    I don’t think he’s questioning the summoning system itself, he just wants the ability to choose which astral to summon. And honestly, I’d like the ability to do that too. The past 13 times I’ve summoned all I’ve gotten is Shiva and I’m honestly getting tired of it. I want some variety. I’ve only summoned Titan once in over 80 hours of gametime since I acquired him, and I’ve summoned Ramuh far less than I have Shiva.

    Put astrals in spoiler tags in case not everyone who reads the comments here have beaten the game yet and gotten all the astrals.

  • stevenm281

    among my favorite FFs

  • •december

    TALK ABOUT BACKSEAT FISHING

  • Artemis Polara

    Indeed

  • Ronghaak25

    PLEASE GIVE US MORE CUT SCENE m/
    i feel there’s more SE can tell about what happen in Niflheim side until the epidemic or war related story. It seems like ledolas is no one compared to ardyn (he shows up only once in his throne if i remember correctly), one things led to another and then the whole empire is gone…
    i dont know, but when i played this, i didn’t feel that we’re at war with them, Nifleheim seems like a dead empire to me. Maybe because i have less interaction with their human troops.

    but again, this story is told from the four perspective, so for me it makes sense that noct doesn’t even know well about what happen in both sides, neither lucis nor nifleheim.
    Furthermore, i support SE team for their work on this title & their commitment to make us enjoy more.
    keep up the good spirit!

  • highsky00

    The avatar thing is 99% for the online mode.

  • highsky00

    Please make Odin, Bahamut, Ifrit available to summon. Odin was on the Amano artwork but he wasn’t in game????

  • Justice V

    There are lots of people/summons/monsters on there that aren’t in the game (if I’m not mistaken).

  • Justice V

    Make ring magic stronger? Isn’t death one of the ring magic spells? Seems like it’s already plenty powerful. Granted I’m still in Ch. 3 so haven’t gotten anywhere near getting it yet.

  • Justice V

    Yeah not too big on the avatar thing, but really doesn’t take away from the game at all if it’s one of the last features added in. Also like others said I can only really see it playing logically in the online aspect of the game.

  • what?!

  • Stonespear

    This should have already been done. The experience has been had by many players already and going around changing things now is too late for lots of us.

    I’ll play it but this isn’t satisfactory.

  • Jesus Christ

    Dang where you been, you miss the hot commentary firestorm the other day!

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  • Codes McGodes

    Bahamut and Ifrit are the only non-summonable summons. Beyond that, there’s only four actual summons in the game; the fewest in the series.

  • •december

    TALK ABOUT BACKSEAT FISHING

  • Diego Almeida

    ok go battle against Naglfar not on easy dif and we talk later!!!!

  • stevenm281

    it takes a long time for the spell to kill someone, leaving Noctis open to attacks and interrupting the spell.

    Also, they could add other spells to it, as I think there is only 3 so far, if I remember correctly.

  • stevenm281

    That I figured, but still, I was more hoping of playing as Noctis and co. coop, not creating our own characters, altho I will still probably really enjoy the coop part.

  • stevenm281

    I don’t understand why we never visited Ghalad, the town where Nyx and Libertus are from.

  • BIMPY KING OF LORDS

    the empire doesnt have a human army. only less than 10 humans capable of fighting really good

  • BIMPY KING OF LORDS

    whats wrong with the gp? its by far more immersive dynamic and fun than FFs released before 2016

  • Caliburn

    Maybe, but it isn’t rare. This is how games has evolved. Patches and updates are the norm, although it does have a diminishing effect on RPGs.

  • Invictus

    I’m not one to complain but, the second half really felt like it was rushed. Heck it even felt like a massive piece of the story was cut-off. It’s not just chapter 13 that felt bad, it was more like the entire 2nd half.

    I’m guessing those missing pieces will be the ones for DLCs. So in the events once all the DLCs are out, that I feel is the real Final Fantasy XV.

    But I’m having fun doing the side quests for now. I left chapter 14 because I got whopped by a level 72 monster at the citadel. lol

  • I’ll be waiting for the Final Fantasy XV: Director’s Cut that contains the rest of the 20-25 hours that Tabata said the game would have the main campaign (40-50 hours). Very clear that there have been absurd cuts in history and that has compromised the entire gameplay of the second part.

  • Yuntu

    Nah I think they are simply cut due to time constrains leading to them having to decide what to keep and what to cut.

    From what I know (havn´t played much, mainly because of this here) each character has a point in the story where he leaves the party and thats probably where the DLC plays out.

  • Yuntu

    I 100% doubt they will patch in 20-25 hours of story. That would be incredile absurd.

    My advice is to not take developer guesses on time for a game as a fact. They often completly misjudge how quick players can beat things.

  • •december

    Would love some new Regalia decals !

  • CRIMSON-XIII

    im personally 26 hours in and on chapter 5 now. so the dev time guess is matching up so far.

  • Yuntu

    Well. My question now is: Do you do only the story or sidecontent? Because we are talking about only story here.

  • CRIMSON-XIII

    ive done some side quests, but ive not done any past lvl 20 tier side quests, i just take my time and explore a bit too. i stayed in the desert for like 10-15 hours. before duscae .

  • Yuntu

    and many people just play the story

    and i do not think we can blame them for that, after all FF is a franchise known for its story

  • CRIMSON-XIII

    true but i see a lot of story in xv , certain little discussions during walking, chocobo riding, or driving would normally happen in 1-2 minute cutscenes in previous games. we dont blame others but its based on perspective, i think it has a lot more story and world lore than FF13 via presentation, IMO, however i appreciated kingsglaive as the opening cutscene as well.

  • Invictus

    I’d still give it an 8.5/10. It’s really fun to play. You just can’t help compare it to FFVI since they took reference to that. The story is nowhere near the classic in terms of depth and details.

  • Artemis Polara

    Well let’s note the three spells the ring could cast in the movie:
    Protect, Fireball, and Thunder (That aren’t grenades like in the game)
    I’d kinda like Noctis to have an exclusive set of spells to unleash the elements without having to waste items. It wouldn’t be customizable like the Elemancy but would be easier to aim. (Without Wait Mode, which I’ve never used)

  • highsky00

    True .And I remember an area that covered with red theme and had an flying creature in the TGS 2014 trailer. It didn’t make it into the game either. Such a shame that they have cut alot through out the development.

  • Codes McGodes

    Death isn’t the end-all spell they made it seem. Many monsters are immune to it, and there’s no indication as to which ones until you try it out on them.

  • Codes McGodes

    I just wish once an enemy has been scanned, they stayed scanned like in FFXIII. It’s very frustrating when an enemy takes like ten years to scan, and when you find a second enemy of that type, you have to wait another ten years to scan them.

  • stevenm281

    I can’t confirm if its accurate or not yet, I’ve seen people saying as such on Facebook.

    I can say however that never during my first playthrough on Normal did Carbuncle come to my rescue, he only appeared on Prompto’s pictures.

    Now I’m gonna play a second playthrough on Easy and see how it goes.

  • same here, there was one picture of him in the background in Descae that’s it.

  • NoctisStrife87

    Well i played a lot of FF games including the ones that doesn’t belong to the mainline, and i think that XV is better than a lot of other games that i played. Yeah, the story has A LOT of problems, but knowing that it came through 3 engines and two different console generations, two directors, plus the deadline, certainly Tabata had a struggle to condensate what was originally planned to be 3 installments into one and rewrite the story in order to make sense and to be faithfull to the original, which was his position since the beggining of the director transition. I have no problem with the upcoming DLCs and i saw Witcher 3 having a lot of them in order to correct a lot of bugs and add new things for a year or more. Those free DLC’s for me is good, because they did what they could to deliver the game in time.
    Now about the combat, i love the ATB and the old games styles, period. But, XV has a great combat on its on way and i enjoyed it the same way i did with Crisis Core(almost becoming Tabata fanboy HAHA). The game is beautiful, really enjoayble and there’s heart to its core characters that made me care for them like i didn’t in a long time with a numbered FF game.

  • Boss

    Besides your view on the battle system i can more or less agree to everything.
    Especially the way you try to explain the problems, i really like. I mean the engine is beautiful, but if its on ther other side causing so much problems, i dont think the right solution to solve them is to rush the game at some point, instead of maybe splitting it in parts. And i dont think the dlcs will solve those missings in a way, it would be “fair” for a final fantasy.
    Ive to admit that Noctis was one of the best main characters for a long time. But theres missing a lot in the relation ship between the group.
    I loved Crisis Core too, but at least you had to press the square button in the right moment, or do i remember wrong? :p

  • CallMeGod

    I completely agree I’m on chapter 10 right now and what happen to Luna and Ignis was a wtf moment to me that was it. The CGI for that scene between Luna and Noctis was beautiful,but that was it. Didn’t had no emotional impact on me at all because of how poorly the character were flesh out and the many plot holes of the story. The role Luna play was so pointless to me that if they remove her and Gentiana from the game the story would had still play out the same. We could have Noctis go on his journey to receive the Astrals power because Luna didn’t do much and Gentiana was role was pointless as well. I rather they had spent more time to flesh out Cor and Arenea development because I actually like them more than Luna even though they only appear for a short time in my party. Would had like them to actually be recruited as party member instead of Ignis and Prompto who always die all the time in battle, at least Gladious was likable and useful in battle since he hardly die that much. I partially put the blame on Tabata since he replace Nomura and decide to change the story and characters so that they all fit in one game which lead to the story of game being unsatisfying so far. I rather had 3 games instead of one and wait another year or two because so far the story feel like a let down and how characters just pop up and disappear.

  • Codes McGodes

    I don’t buy into the whole “Tabata had to cram three games into one” argument. The story is so scarce in exposition there’s not even a full game’s worth of story in there. It’s not like we went on a rip-roaring 40-50 hour ride that was overloaded with context. It’s not like how Goblet of Fire, a 1000+ page epic was crammed into a 2-hour movie. There’s only two and a half hours worth of cutscenes that encompass the entire story, which by RPG standards is the equivalent of Cliffnotes.

    But yeah, I agree that I was never really into the LuNoctis relationship. They’re clearly trying to play the whole star crossed lovers angle, but a) they met once when they were children, b) they haven’t seen each other in 12 years, and c) it’s an arranged marriage that was literally arranged days before the game begins. Yet he’s devastated by Luna’s death, and doesn’t give a flying fuck about his father’s. It all comes down to bad writing really. Tabata had the same problem with Type-0. All the necessary plot points to make up the hero’s journey, but with zero development to connect them all.

  • ok?…means it was still too early to be released……

  • Mauricio Acosta

    When you first get to Niflheim and look up, you see those monsters up there flying. They are more or less magitech.

  • Mauricio Acosta

    I think that was one of the knights of the round if I am not mistaken and not Odin. But I agree, we already have what we need to summon Bahamut and Ifrit’s right horn… so why not!?

  • CallMeGod

    Just beat the last night and boy were those last 4 chapters a mess.It feel so rush that I rather have them delay the game for another year if they needed the time to make the story coherent. I don’t understand why they didn’t show those flashbacks of Luna from the beginning before what happen to her. At least that might have made me care more about her. Would had help the relation between Noctis and Luna to not feel so force and have more an emotional impact. I thought it was dumb that we had to talk to some random character like the old lady and little girl in Tenebrea to see those cutscenes which didn’t makes any sense like who the heck are you. Also, the no explanations or no showing of what happen to the Ravus, Iedolas, and the other villians was such a bad decisions that it completely just ruin the story. The ending also didn’t make an sense and it just made me feel the game was such a let down that I don’t think they can make a fantastic Final Fantasy game at all considering what happen to 13. At for me I enjoy 13 and thought it was pretty good which didn’t need two more games. It just ruin the game for me that I don’t even want to replay the game when they release those free story dlc to explain what happen. At of this moment, I don’t even want to do go back and do any of the side quests in FF15 at all. I guess my UCE of FF15 getting cancel wasn’t such a bad thing after all since I didn’t waste so much money for a game that was just going to let me down so bad.

  • CallMeGod

    Gameplay feel good overall, but at time it just feels so automatic and boring. They should had give us more control of the battle system like the link or back team attack which just auto trigger. For me it just ruin the flow of gameplay because when I trying to do something else it trigger automatic. Should had been like parry where it gives you the option to press square to do the attack or not. I would had also like to had more control of customization for the weapon like in the Duscae demo where each weapon can be equip with a different skill and you have the option to decide when to use it. Having to hold the stick down and attack button at the same time didn’t feel satisfying and feel poorly execute because there were time it would just keep doing the attack combo when I was holding the stick down with the attack button. They should had just let us the option when to use summon as well instead of having to meet certain conditions and also have a quick select multiple weapon decks. Instead of having to pause the game in battle to switch out weapon we could had press L2 like the team command and switch to a different weapon deck instantly.

  • Joakim

    I enjoy this game because its a new FF. Remove that brand/name and people wouldnt care so much for this game. Its sad that SE lost its ability to tell a good story, that actually make you feel something/care for those characters.

    I support SE for making new FF games, but, the series not what it used to be and what made it achieve greatness in the first place.

  • Shinobuden

    They had a contract to release it in 2016 no matter what. They had no choice. Although I’m sure Tabata could probably have pushed it for a later release since it’s the FF15, but what’s happened has happened. At least they’re going to rectify the problems.

  • Ronghaak25

    yeah, literally like a dead army made from the daemon. They barely even make a sound when you fight them

  • Stonespear

    I’ll be looking forward to Nova’s official review. The community has reached somewhat of a consensus and I’m in agreement with it. Will be interesting to see if the reviewer will ignore or take the flaws on board.

  • Stonespear

    A fix now would be a slap in the face of the fans. If they chose this bad ending then they need the balls to stick with it. If they change it, and claim it wasn’t the “right” ending after a 10 year development then it just shows they are incompetent.

  • Stonespear

    I’d rather have a different team working on FFXVI anyway.

  • Stonespear

    I enjoyed the game and I’d play it again, but it wasn’t good enough for what was promised in my opinion. Too many little flaws and a few big ones in the plot make it underwhelming for a FF game but a good game in general.

  • Stonespear

    Who is Stella? What is Versus? They aren’t happening and it was very clear from the outset of FFXV that they weren’t happening. An unreasonable criticism of the game rather than a biased opinion.

  • Stonespear

    And also why I won’t preorder games or purchase DLC. I’m only one wallet but game makers are able to cash in before the money is earned these days. I only wish more people would adopt the same attitude and perhaps companies wouldn’t have carte-blanche to create underwhelming entries.

  • Stonespear

    And that is unacceptable as it should’ve been there to begin with. It may make the story more satisfactory but I doubt it will change many people’s minds about the game as a whole. It was Square Enix’s mistake to leave the story so unexplained.

  • highsky00

    Nah I’m sure of hell that was Odin. None of KOTR has had a horse. Plus KOTR always appear with 13 people. And I think KOTR of FFXV are the 13 Kings of Lucis.

  • I want this as well, but I think that it might’ve been problematic as some hunts are triggered in the same spots… though, now that I type this out, I realize that I would love to have the added challenge of overlapping hunts! 🙂

  • I love this game so far and welcome any addition to it. I didn’t think that chapter 13 was that problematic. It was long, sure, but shouldn’t we be more thick skinned than this? Enough people complain and they get a patch to improve “gameplay satisfaction?” Chapter 13 was not THAT bad.

  • Noctis

    slap in the face? haha. This complete game was a slap in the face.

  • Stonespear

    More or less. I feel like they tried hard but focused on things that weren’t relevant, like open-world and the combat system and graphics rather than the core of a FF game – the story.

  • Justice V

    Cool. So just works similar to Death in every other FF. That’s good. Didn’t want it to be over powered really.

  • Justice V

    Haha had to run since so many sites were putting up spoilers in comment sections and wanted to avoid them.

  • Justice V

    Pretty sure the normal soldiers are human. Then the magitek soldiers are the robots.

  • Codes McGodes

    I was actually excited at the prospect of being able to use it on higher level monsters, just at a significantly lower rate of success. I figured it would still require tremendous patience and timing to whittle an enemy down. But I guess that’s always been the problem with Death. It either works or it doesn’t, there’s not really a percentage game at play no matter how powerful you become.

  • Bobby/Godless

    It’s alright if you don’t buy into it but its the truth. Neogaf has the hole thing posted on their site.

  • NoctisStrife87

    Yeah, well let’s wait for the updates to judge better. If XV was made with Unreal Engine, maybe they could deliver everything they planned to.

  • Codes McGodes

    What I mean is that there isn’t three games worth of story content available in the game. What would Neogaf even know about the situation anyway? They weren’t a part of FFXV’s development, so all they know is whatever Square-Enix tells them.

  • Bobby/Godless

    Why would there be three games worth of content? Nothing existed prior to XV other than a concept anyway.

    As for Neogaf,this person was apart of XVs development team.

  • Codes McGodes

    That’s exactly my point. Tabata didn’t cram three games worth of story into one because there isn’t even a single game’s worth of story in it to begin with. So to say Tabata crammed three games worth of story into one is nothing more than an excuse for bad writting.

    And you’re not giving me anything from Neogaf to go off of. A link would help.

  • Ultra

    Sounds awesome but how long for the NG+ and Holiday expansion. Kind of expecting those this month since Christmas and all.

  • Mojoz

    Actually, that’s quite realistic. When his father died, he had something else to focus on, a reason to keep going (Luna). However, when Luna dies, Noctis no longer feels like he has a reason to go on. That’s why he falls apart, and that’s why Gladio is being a douche to him, to make him see he still has a reason to keep going (his duty as king, his people).

    It could have been explained a lot better though, for sure.

  • Dhanang

    I was going to give this 8.5 too (when I was still in chapter 8). But after I played chapter 10+ everything just went roller-coaster. I stopped playing at chapter 13. While I don’t have difficulty beating the monsters – I just can’t stand the whole wtf moments in the previous chapters and then trapped alone in depressing aisles.

  • Dhanang

    Wait until you reach chapter 13 and then decide whether it needs to be strengthen or not. I spent 5 ethers (which means 6 full MPs) before I could kill one Iron Giant with Death spell.

  • Codes McGodes

    Mmm, you’re welcome to think that, but I just don’t buy it because I don’t buy Noctis and Luna’s relationship to begin with. They didn’t know each other at all outside of their royal duties when they were children and their marriage was arranged mere days before the Imperial invasion. Noctis and Regis seemingly had a very close relationship. Of course I’m going entirely off of the trailers since none of the childhood footage ended up in-game. But the love they shared was tantamount. His confusion and fury over his father’s death is raw and real and fits the narrative perfectly, but then the crew immediately moves on to “where should we camp tonight?” and “I’ve come up with a new recipe” and “old girl could really use a carwash!” There’s no mourning period for his father and it’s partially because of the roadtrip theme and it’s partially because there’s a tremendous amount of story content missing. Even if his father’s death made him need to see Luna all the more, he didn’t act like it. He didn’t act at all devastated when he first heard of her fake death, nor relieved when it turned out she was still alive, so it doesn’t make any sense that he’d be so devastated when she died for real. He didn’t talk about Luna like a woman he loved, because she wasn’t. She was a childhood acquaintance he hadn’t seen in over a decade. So I get that he’d be sad, but his over-the-top devastation just didn’t make any sense to me. The way he acts after Luna’s death is the way he should have acted when the Empire betrayed his family, killed his father, and stole everything from his kingdom. But for the first 9 chapters he’s just like “herp does that guy work for the empire? What a strange fellow, hurr hurr maybe we should get in his car.”

  • Mojoz

    I totally understand where you’re coming from, I do agree with you on a lot of points. I just don’t think it was about how much he cared about her though, but rather it was his duty and responsibility. He felt like he had failed his duty when Luna died, and it appeared to me that when he heard she died, he was refusing to believe it hence the lack of mourning. Perhaps they didn’t make that clear enough and I just assumed (seems to be the main issue with this game, a possible great story but communicated badly).

    I totally agree with you on the mourning period for the father as well, but once again, that’s difficult to obtain when creating a free-roam game. They was able to achieve more emotional reactions later in the story because it was linear at that point, however, it would not be possible when in the open-world without making certain features of the game off-limits to the player.

    This is why I prefer linear Final Fantasy’s! However, you can’t satisfy everyone and there will always be trade-offs for a open world game.

  • Yes, this is exactly what I want. And to be honest, I’ve gotten Shiva a lot too ever since I got her, and I love her, I really do but I’ve only summoned her and Ramuh (only once) and I wasn’t even in trouble that one time :c

    I get that they have a mind of their own but I see no problem with the fact you’re given a choice to choose which one will help you before fights depending on what enemy you’re about to fight. Besides, they can pop when you’re in trouble – like it’s always been, that’s not a problem at all to me. (Perhaps, the boys urging you to change it specifically before a fight, just like when you’re fishing and you need to change the line on your fishing rod? And not every fight, mind you, I mean on big fights mostly. “Don’t forget to ready yourself for the next fight, Noct.” Says Ignis to the young Prince – or something like that :p)

    (Also, I’m a girl.)

  • Agreed with you and Artemis. I’m so grateful Noctis isn’t another Cloud, Squall (although he did actually have changes little by little later in the story) or another Cloud Lightning as a character. Noctis, like Zidane, is a breath of fresh air for a FF protagonist and that’s what I think made XV so good on its own – one of them anyways – despite its flaws.

  • Shinobuden

    I’m glad I understood you correctly. I completely agree. I wonder what would happen if Shiva gets summoned when you’re fighting a bunch of ice bombs?
    They probably made it so that can’t happen, but it’d be interesting to see what would happen.

    My apologies. It was rude of me to automatically assume you were a guy. Edited my previous comment.

  • •december

    This is true for Aranea, but also Cor Leonis,
    Versteal and ‘Daemon slayer’ Iris.

  • Invictus

    Point taken sir. As many loop holes in the story, I just wished the main boss battles were tough as hell.

  • jtc

    Please add Index, Bestiaries, Lore and other stuff that we can view from the menu like every other Final Fantasy Games. I watch both the Anime and Movie but I’m still clueless on the second part of the story. Overall it’s a a great game. 8/10

  • Justice V

    Damn haha. I’m guessing you had the mp ascension node unlocked and are high level too at that point.

  • Erik Pelkey

    How bout being able to pick items an wat not up WHILE being on a chocobo…?? Its annoying to CONSTANTLY have to jump off to pick stuff up…. an maybe so more open world maps… i LOOOVVVVEEEEEE the open world part about this game… makes it soooooo much fun…. an maybe some more achievements… :-S PLLLEEAASSSEEEE!?!?!?!? Other than that and what u already have planned VERY AWSOME GAME!!!! best game ive played in a LOOOOOONNNNGGGGG time 🙂 thank u everyone an AWSOME!!!!! job… keep up the good work… 🙂

  • Joshua Paul

    More open world areas would be nice. The map that they showed a year or so back shows that the events of the game only happen within about 1/6 of Eos. It would have been way cooler if they at least showed more of it in-game. *Mild Spoiler* Showing that Accordo was only, like, two miles off the coast of Duscae kinda undermined the “Lord of the Rings”-style journey feel that they were originally going for; so maybe if they gave us more world to wiz by, it would restore that.

  • DreamCast

    Looking forward to that character creation feature.

  • Akuin

    I see you complaining a lot about the fact people want clarifications to the story. As it stands from everything I read in the game and piecing it together myself from what we have.

    Ardyn Is Lunafreya’s ancestor, the original Oracle chosen by the gods and then thrown aside.

    and/or

    Noctis’ Ancestor was Ardyn’s brother, probably Izunia Lucis Caelum

    Also

    The boys POSSIBLY die, It’s not even fully confirmed in the end despite the fact that they have survived that same senario a thousand times over by that point in the story and logistically would survive it again because they have literally spent 10 years learning how to fight Daemons in the dark while Noctis is in the crystal. So the “They served their purpose and were ready to die with Noctis” BS I hear literally everyone I talk to about it using to excuse away the fact that 3 people died that should never have died by pure force of skill, logic, AND emotion. So what was so different from the base where Noctis had to run to the crystal while they held off an endless stream of daemons, and ten years of endless night….that a few minutes with some iron giants slaughtered them like peasants.

    There are just some minor dots that need connecting.

    There is also the arguement of Did Noctis destroy Ardyn’s spirit, or merely purify it because the Gods used Ardyn, threw him away, and then told Noctis to essentially wipe him out….but he ‘disappears’ essentially the same way Noctis does

    A few if not all of those things are all things left open to interpretation and I for one call that lazy writing, and it should be fixed.

  • John Fletcher

    welp…. I’m in the middle of chapter 6 at the moment, did ALOT of side quests and hunts and fishing and exploring etc etc, got like 100 or 150 hours of actual playtime (not just standing around with the game paused overnight but the timer keeps going….). I’m going to quit playing now. Good thing I have a huge backlog. I’ll check back in 6 months…. or around december. Maybe they’ll have FINISHED THE GAME by then… >.<