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Final Fantasy XV’s promised 60FPS PS4 Pro patch arrives February 21 By Erren Van Duine on February 2, 2017 at 7:06 AM

Square Enix will release Final Fantasy XV‘s long-promised patch enabling 1080p and 60 frames per second on PlayStation 4 Pro beginning February 21, Square Enix announced today during the latest Active Time Report. Originally planned for a December launch, the patch will now arrive alongside the game’s Booster DLC packs.

Here’s the full rundown on what you can expect in update 1.05:

  • PS4 Pro support at 1080p/60 FPS
  • Time-limited quests
  • Level cap raised to 120
  • Picture limit raised from 150 to 200
  • You can now use the music player while riding a chocobo

While the Pro patch won’t offer a solid 60FPS, Tabata says it’ll be close. The time-limited quests will also only be available for a short period, including special mob hunts. In the future they plan on adding limited-time fishing events.

Moving on, Tabata recapped some of the DLC announcements made the other day during the Final Fantasy 30th anniversary celebrations. Again,the Booster Pack DLC is due out on February 21 and includes a boost sword, a new fishing rod and some reel.

A free version available to everyone will come out at a later date and include Magitek Exosuits for Noctis and his friends to run around in for a bit of invincibility. These items have been delayed for possible revisions due to their similarity to a certain popular series.

Beginning March 28, those with the Season Pass can download and play Episode Gladiolus, a new story episode that lets you play as Gladio while focusing on his fighting abilities. Additionally, a new update improving the controversial Chapter 13 will arrive at this time – including a little more content for the story and a section allowing you to play as Gladiolus for a short time. Then in June, the more character development-focused Prompto episode will come out.

For those still interested in Platinum Demo, Square Enix will cease distribution starting March 31 so you’d best grab it before then.

Additionally, Tabata says the team wants to put out a survey in the near future. They’ll use this survey to gather feedback from fans and players the world over, so they can continue to improve the game into a satisfactory experience. That said, there’s currently no plans for another ATR – it’ll depend on the demand from the players. Distribution of new information will be provided through other means for the time being.

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At the end of the Report, Tabata revealed that an all-terrain model of the Regalia was currently in development. While this feature is not totally confirmed, they did show it running on PC development hardware even though there’s still a large number of bugs to work out.

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  • Paladin Joe

    I hope it’s stable. It was a good ATR. The 21st is also the chapter 13 fix. Lots to look forward to.

  • Artemis_Polara

    I decided to list what I wanted as potential improvements… I know it’s a fuck ton but I really just wanted to throw everything out there…

    -Online/Offline Multiplayer (Split Screen) (No PS+
    requirement please)

    -Playable Luna DLC

    -Improved characterization of Luna

    -Allow guest characters to join in past Lucis and level up
    in chapter 15

    -Bahamut and Ifrit summons in chapter 15

    -Explorable Insomnia, Tenebrae, and Niflheim

    -Complete exploration of Altissia

    -More dynamic approach to the Leviathan boss battle akin to
    the E3 2013 trailer (Running through building chunks fighting soldiers in the
    whirlpool)

    -Improved characterization of Ravus

    -Additional Ravus boss fight during first encounter in Lucis

    -Post Timeskip Iris, Aranea, Cor, Cid, and Cindy

    -Carbuncle available in a limited capacity on higher
    difficulties

    -Kingsglaive playable?

    -Diamond Weapon optional boss battle (We got Adamantoise, it won’t be so hard…)

    -Improved Frame pacing

    -Playable Omen Trailer Story Episode (As a nightmare or a
    “what if”)

    -Brotherhood segments ingame (You modeled a young Prompto so
    it stands reason that you can do the rest)

    -Playable for singleplayer in chapter 15: Noctis, Ignis,
    Gladio, Prompto, Luna, Cor, Iris, and Aranea

    -Increase difficulty and dynamics to the Ardyn boss fight’s
    first and second phase

    -Reduce the linearity of the second half of the game (Not
    backtracking per say but larger areas to explore)

  • Artemis_Polara

    Was my previous comment too long or something? I admit I was editing it a bunch but I was rethinking a lot of ideas

  • Third World Tristan

    Unlocked framerate up to 60FPS in 1080p with the low quality settings.

  • stevenm281

    I like what I’m reading!

    Can’t wait for all these updates and the survey!!!

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  • •december

    I’m literally going to wreck that survey.
    Gonna give it everything!
    Every important mention!
    Square Enix must know, i’m kind of hoping it turns into a poll…

  • Ryuke

    Increased photo limit! Yes! Level cap raising seems a bit pointless though? There’s nothing to kill at that level that you can’t kill at 99, unless they are adding tougher, higher level monsters?
    Glad the PS4 Pro guys are getting their patch, finally!

    Those chapter 13 updates have come quick, too! Was expecting a year down the line or something.

  • Evangeliman

    You know at first I was Leary of adding important content to games afterwards, but it seem like this might be the only way to get games to have enough time to finish true development, I get the feeling that square forced this out at the 10th hour, the. World and combat were pretty good but alot if story is missing or just skipped and with a few exceptions character development t is breezed over.

  • Third World Tristan

    Offroad Regalia looks terrible (just raised the wheels) and doesn’t make sense exploration-wide because chocobos are better for that. This is Tabata’s biggest failure: he doesn’t fix the basic gameplay and just adds new layers, which makes things pointless. Just think about it: what’s the point of using the offroad Regalia if the game isn’t designed for that at all in the first place? Chocobos are way better because they were designed for that and it’s not like offroad Reglia can offer special places to explore, unless they’ll make the map bigger and add special places where only Regalia could go, but Tabata already said that making the map bigger is too time-consuming (expensive).

  • Evangeliman

    Even an unstable 50-60 would be fine as long as the frame stuttering has been fixed.

  • MULTIPLE JELLYBEAN

    Will we be able to get Carbuncle after the demo is removed? Or is he lost forever to those who didn’t get the demo?

  • Randy Marsh

    Well I’ll be damned, Tabata and his monkeys got the game to run on 60fps with that burden of an engine. Good for them, now I may have a reason to maybe buy a ps4 pro one of these days.

  • Randy Marsh

    Unless they add a dlc event to get Carbuncle, highly unlikely. If they take Platnium Demo down, but keep the Judgment Disc demo up still, you can get Carby that way instead. Judgment Disc allowed you to have Carbuncle as a summon as long as you had data of completing its tutorial mode.

  • Noctis

    Finally an survey, where I can tell them personally what I think about XV!!!

  • Noctis

    please remove Tabata from every game that will be produced in the future! This game is a failure!

  • JReinert

    The silent majority disagree, I want you to be put in his situation and release a game half as good lol.

  • Nick Greeley

    Take this privilege to provide actually constructive criticism. They won’t look twice at “HURRDURR TABATA SUX LOLZ”

    Square admitted he was put in charge because he has a better work ethic than the rest. Don’t be a douche.

  • Nick Greeley

    Carbuncle is already in the game regardless, just locked in Easy Mode. All platinum did is let you name him 🙂

  • Nick Greeley

    13 fix is on March 28th!

  • Nick Greeley

    Did I just see…more high-level enemies being added to the field!? That has me more excited than anything else lol.

  • •december

    No, it’s not one of those complain surveys.
    It’s a survey where FFXV fans can share what they want to add. As fan service. To give back to the fans. FFXV haters opinion’s won’t be taking into account.

  • JReinert

    Limited time hunts will probably break level cap, and they were mentioned to begin at the time of the update.

  • Ryuke

    While I agree it’s not just an opportunity to say “FFXV SUX TABATA SUX GIVE US VERSUS HURRDURR” etc etc, it’s also not just a fan survey for fans to praise the game over and mention things they want to add. The whole point of a survey is to get opinions, good or bad, and take the criticism on board and hopefully work with it. Tabata said it’s for fans and players world wide to give their opinion so they can improve the game to a satisfactory experience, so its a very good opportunity to raise those bad points so they don’t make the same mistake again. It’s not really a give back to the fans scenario.

    Prime example is the Regalia-F, the whole reason we got that flying monstrosity was because fans demanded and demanded an airship or equivalent, and we ended up with the thing that we got despite the game not being built for it. Same with this off-road Regalia, it’s just unnecessary pandering to vocal fan demands and will completely negate any use of chocobos. Give me chocobos any day! 🙂

  • Ryuke

    Ah yeah, I must’ve glossed over that. Makes much more sense now, thanks!

  • stevenm281

    Be constructive when you’ll do it, don’t be disrespectful by saying the game sucks or any terms as demeaning, if you want them to read it, if not, they won’t even consider your opinion.

  • stevenm281

    I love the all-terrain Regalia, fuck chocobos! (never thought I’d say this)

  • stevenm281

    If I can, I’ll copy paste my review, or at least, the most important parts of it.

  • stevenm281

    we shall see!

  • Noctis

    No worries, I write pages

  • Noctis

    I will explain them calmly without insulting no one no worries, I`m not in berserk mode^^

  • Noctis

    Oh I would like to have that chance believe me I would be better

  • Noctis

    Lol its logic if i start with Fu** tabata blablbala none will read it. 😀

  • Yuntu

    It´s “not always 60fps”, but with this engine its an achievement either way

  • Yuntu

    Those Gladio animations are a feast for the eyes. Hope its fun to play as well.

  • This is the time to fucking ask for the Versus Outfit, my peeps!

  • Ulises

    The regalia was awesome especially at 51:43 LOL!!! No seriously, they really need to improve the programing of that car…

  • Third World Tristan

    Stop acting like a ridiculous fanboy and stop licking Tabata’s ass. It’s disrespectful to everybody around you.

  • Third World Tristan

    Get real, please. They just unlocked framerate in the low quality mode on PS4P. It doesn’t run in 60 FPS. It runs up to 60 FPS. It can’t run at locked 60 FPS on PS4P because the CPU is too weak. GPU can’t do everything.

  • stevenm281

    I wonder if there will be stuff in the world that will be destructible with the Regalia, like poles, fences, etc.

  • stevenm281

    Your vulgarity and lack of empathy towards others is disrespectful.

    We may not share the same tastes, but yours isnt better than mine, nor mine is better than yours, they’re different and thats it.

    We’re more than allowed to enjoy the game.

    You do realize that this website is a community for fanboys and fangirls right? You’re the one who’s out of place.

  • Third World Tristan

    You got painted with your real colours. Deal with it.

    My comment has nothing to do with your taste. It’s about your toxic attitude. Stop telling others what to do.

  • gabrieuTG

    I want Vs. outfits; Explorable Insomnia, Niflheim and Dark World; more cutscenes for Luna; build up for Prompto’s revelation; playable Kingsglaive (that would be sick); more Noctis and Regis cutscenes; Ardyn’s past cutscenes, Ravus’ cutscenes and summonable Bahamut.

  • Ryuke

    Click arrow, block user. Easiest thing to do with nasty trolls like this. Trolls I can handle, but ones that are just plain rude to everyone for no reason other than they got out of bed on the wrong side every single morning and clearly hate everything in life aren’t worth your time.

  • Julian Gallagher

    Hi. This just to PS4 Pro or is to PS4 and Pro versions this update?

  • xMysticx

    give me versus 13 i didnt approve of xv !!!!
    heck we didnt ask for xv i want versus plot back fuck you SE and tabata

  • Yuntu

    The 60FPS is only on the Pro.

  • Julianer

    Thank you very much. I was already scared that PS4 was left behind. After a decade, it is not fair that we are displeased only by versions of the console.

  • stevenm281

    While I do understand that the game isnt for everyone, nothing is, I can’t believe we’re being targetted and attacked for enjoying this game while we’re on a fan community website.

  • Randy Marsh

    Yes I am aware it isn’t always 60 fps, but still like you stated this is a hell of an achievement for the Luminous Engine. I’ve been criticizing it and joking it would never be able to achieve any form of 60 fps, but now this happens. Guess I’ll be having salt and pepper with those words I’m eating tonight.

  • stevenm281

    I’m gonna get the Pro once they’re done updating the game and releasing DLCs.

  • XenoSilvano

    I would highly recommend that the developers at Square-enix take a gander at comments by gamers about the game on websites like this, that way they would get a better grasp as to what gamers really think about their game rather than concerning themselves solely in respect to the opinions by Yes people

    although I do no think that they will ever admit to it, I honestly think that an apology is due to the fans in respect how shoddy FINAL FANTASY XV turned-out

    “sorry for the game being ####, we needed the money”

    FINAL FANTASY XV is a betrayal

  • XenoSilvano

    they probably had it out quick because they are reinstituting work that had to be cut due to not having it finished before the games release date, if that is not the reason then you know that it is going to be garbage if it only took them a few months to develop

  • XenoSilvano

    you should start jotting notes down as of right now so that you do not miss this grand opportunity to tell the developers every last thing you that you thought of the game

  • MULTIPLE JELLYBEAN

    so what if i wanna name him >:( i wanna name my noodles

  • Starlord

    I thought it was rather conspicuous when they showed off concept art of Gladiolus Episode, a place that looks unknown to us. Also, it wouldn’t be taking this long to get each episode out if they were to reuse already made places.

    I think each episode will have at least 1 new place.

  • Russ Purf

    Bro don’t take it personal haha ps4 couldn’t handle 60fps if it scares you so much buy a pro

  • AnimeFan89

    Don’t forget about Ifrit, they have a trophy for summoning one of the Six but we only have access to four of them.

  • Russ Purf

    I want it in 4k it looks exactly the same on high as 1080 in fact with output on 2160 it looks blurry so I play it on 1080 it could do with native 4k as well as a 60fps option it doesn’t even look checkerboarded

  • Russ Purf

    Bahamut defo and kings of the round same as Nyx could when he had the ring of the lucii

  • sh1ku

    “These items have been delayed for possible revisions due to their similarity to a certain popular series.”. Like, really? I thought they made a nice and fun reference as they are right now. Welp.

  • stevenm281

    Why the Exosuits tho? People have been begging for the Versus XIII outfits since ever, and they preferred to make us something else entirely…

  • Chronodave

    Everything you said is wrong. When developers start listening to gamers every wants and needs you get a game with no identity. Gamers don’t know what the hell they want half the time.

    Really? You want an apology for a game that was pretty much dead, then some how miraculously got released! Yeah the game aint the masterpiece people built up in their heads over the years, but it’s a good game. It’s worthy of being called Final Fantasy. Now the team has experience working with an open-world type game, and can build upon that experience to make a better game next time.

  • Julianer

    I don’t really care about the quality of PRO, and I will not buy another PS4 just for that detail. What is going to be unfair that they only release DLC or other things depending on the version, even if it is the same PS4 console, (only for difference in quality) In that case, I stop playing it. After all, one less doesn’t care about the FF or PS4 producers. 🙂

  • XenoSilvano

    I want Libertus! and Galahd!

  • gabrieuTG

    Ifrit is dead. The other five made a pact with Noctis

  • •december

    Yeah true, Taelpar Crag/Aftermath of the Astral War area is seen in the game, but it’s true it is a new area in the sense we haven’t been there before. They confirmed each episode will follow a pattern like that.

  • •december

    It’s obviously Power Rangers! Lmao.

  • 草薙 素子

    Wish they’d stop with the joke costumes and give us some tonally appropriate attire.

    Alternatively dig through past FF’s and pull some armor from there. I’d love to see if Noct would look decent in Cecil’s Dark Knight getup or maybe Locke’s gear from FFVI.

  • •december

    Well they did have some weapon from FF9 and FF13 as DLC…
    But it’s true they’re saving the gritty “tonally appropriate” attire for the DLC, look at Prompto’s fur coat. These things are gonna take time and while it’s excrutiating the wait, I’d prefer they didn’t just rush it out, so these gimmicky things are just to amuse us til the time is right that the Episode DLC/update patches/Chapter 13 rebuff/Ravus/Eos expansion is indeed ready.

  • •december

    Yeah dude my words were clearly “where FFXV fans can share what they want to add” I know & agree it isn’t a place to praise what they did right.
    Lol, yours was a strange reply…

  • •december

    Yo this is true. And tbh, nobody asked for multiplayer, VR, a lot of this gimmicky Chocobo Moogle shirt and Power rangers suit crap – so you have to realise when they say this, they just want an opinion on what would be welcomed. What’s the priority.

    They have started working on expansions, character developments, stuff that was cut etc. They really just wanna know what’s the most important thing to be working on for the next year, and what will have fans coming back most. All the Versus XIII fan boys will be ignored.

  • •december

    Believe it.
    With every release I’m sure there’s a whole wave of trolls, FF fanbase are easy targets. I’m unphased cause you’ve gotta be a troll to know a troll, let them hate?

  • •december

    Haha, yeah! Way ahead of you buddy.
    The main things I got covered mentally, cause I quite liked a lot of the game.

  • •december

    Still, we should definitely get Bahamut’s Sword dance or Megaflare.
    Would only be fair.

  • AnimeFan89

    I initially thought that but remembered when Shiva was “killed” by Niflheim, yet she still was able to exist. Then again, that was an astral being felled by humans and not by another astral so that makes more sense.

  • daveguitar

    “Third World Tristan stevenm281 • 7 hours ago
    Stop acting like a ridiculous fanboy and stop licking Tabata’s ass. It’s disrespectful to everybody around you.”

    “Third World Tristan stevenm281 • 7 hours ago
    Stop telling others what to do.”

    You are kinda stupid, aren’t you?

  • stevenm281

    I’ll do so right away!

  • Doesntwork247

    ninja turtle suits next?

  • Artemis_Polara

    If people make a list of ideas to improve XV… It should totally be a list of 15 ideas… 😀

  • Artemis_Polara

    -Online/Offline Multiplayer (Split Screen) (No PS+
    requirement please)

    -PVP for multiplayer

    -Character development Luna DLC Episode

    -Allow guest characters to join in past Lucis and level up
    in chapter 15

    -Bahamut and Ifrit summons in chapter 15

    -Completely explorable Insomnia (Past Lucis or timeskip), Tenebrae, Niflheim, and
    Altissia

    -Improved characterization of Ravus

    -Additional Ravus boss fight during first encounter in Lucis

    -Post Timeskip Iris, Aranea, Cor, Cid, and Cindy

    -Kingsglaive playable? (Just use the film footage for cutscenes) (AKA give
    us a playable Nyx)

    -Diamond Weapon optional boss battle (We got Adamantoise, it won’t be so
    hard…)

    -Playable Omen Trailer Story Episode (As a nightmare or a
    “what if”)

    -Brotherhood segments ingame (You modeled a young Prompto so
    it stands reason that you can do the rest)

    -Increase difficulty and dynamics to the Ardyn boss fight’s
    first and second phase

    -Reduce the linearity of the second half of the game (Not

    backtracking per say but larger areas to explore)

  • gabrieuTG

    Good point. I’ve already watched a theory video from Final Fantasy Peasant and he talks about that Shiva stuff too. It’s mindblowing, you should watch it.

  • NoctLightCloud

    This!!!

  • 2me

    Correction here, the idea of ‘off road ‘ was already presented in 2014 trailer and Gameinformer already had chance to experience ‘off road’ around 2016 March~April, which means we supposed to get this on the final build

  • NoctLightCloud

    Versus 13 costumes please!!!
    And an actual Magitek or other mounts besides the Chocobo! FF14 has so many great ones~

  • XenoSilvano

    Magitek(?) have you seen one of those things move(?) this journey would take as an eternity as a means of transport

  • NoctLightCloud

    Although I don’t know how Versus13 was supposed to be/look like by the time they totally changed the concept, in my imagination, it was a dramatic but romantic Romeo&Juliet-like love story with dark, mysterious and beautiful areas just like in Kingdom Hearts 0.2 A Fragmentary Passage – I just played it today, and boy, what an excellent concept it has, I was super impressed!
    In my imagination also, it included not only an explorable (intact) Insomnia (+Shinjuku and Yodobashi Kamera xD), but also -strangely- a lot of medieval-looking towns similar to Resident Evil 4 due to the early trailers showing the surrounding areas.

  • NoctLightCloud

    I’m ready! ;D

  • Some Random Guy

    I want the Kingly Rainment without all the bells and whistles AKA the Versus suit. Really pissed that you can only wear it at the end past the point of no return, but not after -_-

  • xMysticx

    you wanna see how it please be my guest and look up ffversus 13 2006 – 2013 trailer see how bloody it is and dark …
    was gonna blow lightning trilogy apart
    fuck ffxiii all the damned things and fuck up came from it and fuck new fags call themselves gamers

  • Vallen

    Gimmy Versus 13 costumes
    Gimmi all terrain regalia that looks normal (not monster truck)
    Gimmi all the removed cutscenes and characters
    Gimmi Insonmnia
    Gimmi other unfinished areas (unless they’re part of the DLC, in which case, good job)

  • •december

    My guess is the last one lol.

  • gunjydna93

    Really really really want offline player vs player mode when the multiplayer expansion comes out. That’s all I want in life. Of course other multiplayer options are a icing to the cake.

  • gabrieuTG

    IMHO multiplayer should be their last priority

  • Shinobuden

    Too bad the vast majority of No people are people literally just going “omg 15 suked fuk u se fuk tabata give me vesrsus 13 it was the true 15!!!!!”. Not saying there aren’t No people who don’t type out constructive comments, but the former is far more common.

    I find it really hard to take people seriously when they say things like this. They’re trying to make things right, and that should be enough…but no, people have to take that extra unneeded self-entitled step, as per usual with the FF fanbase, and say stupid things like “they should apologize to us!”. SE don’t owe you, or any of us, anything. They could have just left the game as it is and been done with it, which is what pretty much every other dev would have done, but they didn’t. Show some gratitude for that before you start demanding apologies.

  • Stonespear

    I’d like to know what progress they are making on the story edits. That is something we should be getting regular updates on, unless Tabata’s comment recently that the story is “fine” means they simply want to milk as many DLC as possible.

    It does feel very much like they’re trying to squeeze money from the players from a game that isn’t complete.

    This sounds very bitter, and in a way it is but at the same time I want Square Enix to make things great again.

  • Stonespear

    Yep. My regular comment companion and I appear to agree again!

  • Stonespear

    Those outfits look absolutely ridiculous and frustrates me that something so silly has been made when there are more important things the fans want.

    Same goes for the carnival rubbish too. Utterly a waste of time compared to episode DLC’s, or more importantly the story patch that we’ve been told is coming, but Tabata’s recent statements make me very dubious as to the content of this “patch.”

  • Artemis_Polara

    Since they’re going to do it anyway, I just want offline multiplayer and PVP

  • CallMeGod

    Every time I hear news about FF15 it just make me disappointed every time, just like how Tabata said there wasn’t really any require story content that was cut out. Seems to me he has now freaking idea how bad the story of FF15 is since it was just garbage. I never buy season pass at all, but I thought there was no way they would be able to mess up with FF15 so I decided to buy it anyway before the game even release. Boy was that a stupid move on my part, even if those DLC come out I probably won’t even play it at all considering I never touch FF15 after beating it or do any of the end game content after the disaster second half. Just go to show that FF15 is just bad considering I put more time into the 13 trilogy by trying to complete as much stuffs as I can and even playing countless hours just to get those ultimate weapons.

  • Artemis_Polara

    Also I didn’t sort them by priority. Just as I came up with them

  • Gin Ichi

    Then stop playing it, going on forums about it, looking for threads and posts about it, and bitching about it? People like you are idiots and just wanna bitch and hear their own voice and see themselves talk. Otherwise you just look like a bitch complaining.

  • Noctis

    Gin what about you you think your better if you insult other people by telling them they are idiots.

    For my part I stopped playing cuz this game is indeed a failure. And what about writing his own impression in a forum, isn`t a forum there to talk about and also to not like something?

    I would recommend you log off from the internet and cuz you clearly can`t handle others opinion 😉

  • Noctis

    what your not happy with the power ranger suits?

  • •december

    Gin is right though, why stick with something you hate.
    Many people love this game, like myself, and will see it to the end.

  • Ryuke

    What was strange about it? You said that it’s not one of those complain surveys and it was for fans to say what they want added, I was just clarifying that it’s not just a survey for fans, and that if people want to complain or provide negative feedback they can, as that’s the whole point of a survey. But essentially I was agreeing with you that its not for people to just shout insults and rage comments at the team, like you said it won’t be taken into account.

  • Ryuke

    Yeah, rude and offensive rantings are totally the way to go… use a braincell next time and maybe explain why you don’t “approve” of XV or what it was that you loved about Versus, if that’s not too much effort of course.

  • •december

    I can’t wait. What kinda feedback are you planning to give to the survey?

  • •december

    So… What kind of feedback are we all going to give back to Square Enix?

  • •december

    One burning bit of feedback I will give, besides Type-F Regalia invisible wall limitations while flying [because more can be added much later], would have to be: Make an entire Map of Eos, one that connects all the regions & continents. We only get a glimpse of this in game between heading off to Altissia and again heading off to Cartanica. And also the “map” of Eos we were giving no longer is relevant.

    This: https://i.redd.it/rnqzr7x1yuwx.png

  • xMysticx

    yeah ? i wanna save my brain cell from the likes of tabata
    i dont approve of XV simple cause its hardly faithful the script already done by nomura and nojima since 2011

    yet tabata again as director ? no wonder type 0 has not good reviews .. i like versus i really do i just fucking bitter on how tabata and the fans of him treat it like it isnt there … from what built on if versus is not there ?

    we get 3 game of that failightning but with a good concept is rushed to the door and has nothing but empty world . you can diss me all you want im from the vocal minority that i want this brand comes to greatness again

    i didnt have a decent FF title since lightning and her bitch ass attitude came to screen .. all who waited from 2006 to 2016 expected versus 13 and not 15

    tabata lies to the fanbase yet i hear applause to that not criticism

  • Artemis_Polara

    Oh yeah, also more “Tours”
    The game severely lacks them. I’ve only run across 3 or 4… Which is absurd since I know Episode Duscae 2.0 had 5 in that region alone…. Also reincorporate Episode Duscae I guess.

  • gabrieuTG

    I forgot, I’d like them to add a datalog, like XIII’s

  • Artemis_Polara

    While I’d like a datalog… I’d want them to have information more upfront than that. I’d not like to have to read through that to understand what’s going on. I’d rather they show it to me. “Show, don’t tell”

  • Ryuke

    Hmm, it depends what they ask I guess. As a general comment I’d like to make it clear that story should not come second to the game, and that the game should be built around the story. For example, if the story dictates that we need to go to a certain place, then put that into the game. It feels like the team knew the kind of game they wanted to make, and then squeezed the story into it which had a knock on effect on the parts of the story which are criticized most for missing or being cut out.
    I’d definitely praise them on some great characters, the party and banter, the world, the lore, the music and the core of the game / game play itself is brilliant, with great side systems like fishing, chocobos, food, photography etc and also the end-game content with having things to do after story completion.
    I’d criticize the underwhelming cast in relation to the story itself (Luna problems, Ravus, Iedolas etc), the parts of the story cut out which felt essential to be in there, the game play past chapter 9 with the open world taken away and the side systems made pointless because of the linearity, the dodgy car mechanics (especially when flying!), the ease of Adamantoise and the easy Platinum trophy in general providing no challenge.

    Unless the survey ends up being a lot of “on a scale of 1 to 10” type questions, then we won’t be able to get our points across at all!

  • Russ Purf

    The pro isn’t getting anything you won’t it’s just that the ps4 couldn’t handle 60fps that’s the only difference

  • Russ Purf

    Like you said eos isn’t even open world really if it was you could walk coast to coast ,over mountains etc like other open world games if you ask me the whole map is linear in a way ,it only lets you go where it wants you to 30%is inexcessable and that isn’t open world really I still think it is a badass game but I had this gripe since I first booted it up

  • Noctis

    I will tell them to trow out Tabata

  • Third World Tristan

    More like 30% is accessible.

  • NoctLightCloud

    Oh it’s “Magitek” in German, I’m not sure if the English name is the same, now that you mention it :O
    You’re right, but still, it would be awesome. Those in ff14 are hella fine mounts~

  • Gin Ichi

    Its not that people never post positive comments, and then those certain people act like their opinion should be shared or taken in by newcomers. It isnt the fact that i can or cant take criticism or opinions online.. I just hate when people are new to the game and read BS comments like yours before they have an opinion for themselves.

    The reasoning for calling you an idiot is because you are contradicting yourself. If the game is a failure and you dont like it, why are you on forums and shit complaining about it? That Logic.

  • Cloud Strife

    Not true

    The combat and world is beautiful,but a crappy camera, bland supporting characters, and a restrictive open world (COME THE FUCK ON, I HAVE A FLYING CAR AND STILL CAN’T FLY WHEREVER I WANT?!) plague the game.

  • CallMeGod

    Lol why you getting all defensive. For your information I already beat the game and stop playing. If I thought the game was bad and want to express my opinion about it then I can just like you. Where does it says on the comment or on the website that I can’t say anything negative about the game at all. Grow up kid because this is the internet where anyone can express their opinion about a game whether it’s bad or good. Seem to me you look like the bitch who complaining about people complaining because they don’t have the same opinion at you. If you can’t handle such a thing then don’t be on the internet.

  • CallMeGod

    Why do you even care if I’m wasting my time on a game if I thought was a failure and is complaining about? I can do or say what I want on the internet. Who are you to tell me how to use my time and what to do. I can use my time to do any I want. There’s no for you to be need to be mad which you are which I think is pretty sad since you’re wasting your time telling me that I’m wasting my time. Lol what kind of logic is that.

  • Artemis_Polara

    Personally I’d say we just all need to be more civil about our feelings towards the game and have a more reasonable discussion. 🙂
    I personally like the game. I definitely have some major gripes but not enough that it ruins the whole game for me. Random bit by the way, Chapter 13 didn’t bother me as much as others because I didn’t do it all at once like I think many did. I played the first half while chatting with a friend, then did the second half the next day.
    Also I think XIII was utterly horrible and the worst FF I ever played and think XV is much much better. My own scoring chart gave it the same score I gave FFX. That’s just my thoughts about it and I welcome your own opinions on that.

  • CallMeGod

    Some people hate this game, but still likes to follow it and express their opinion about whether it’s bad or good so what’s your point.

  • Gin Ichi

    Not Defensive in the least guy. It is your logic that makes you a dumbass. My whole point went straight over your empty head. If someone does something they dont like or want to do, then they usually dont do it, but your here so you must like it somehow or in someway, or you just like to complain. Apparently your opinion IS greater than others, if I cannot give my own towards you. Again that idiot logic comes out of you again. Also I didn’t even give my opinion on the game so of course an ass would assume that your opinion is even different from mine to make you have a moot point. I like how you say get off the interent when you yourself got “defensive” when I called you a name LOL. You need to get off the internet yourself, kid.

  • Gin Ichi

    That people come here for news and other things, maybe they already beat the game or never played it. And see a long strings of countless text bitching about the game. Point was that if people dislike something, then they should have a brain and then leave it instead of ruining it for others.

  • Artemis_Polara

    I actually have to disagree. If people didn’t express their negative opinions on things, then everything would just be praised to hell and we wouldn’t have a clue about what is what. I’m fine with people disliking the game and expressing those opinions. I just feel we need to present our arguments more calmly and without insult. And I’m speaking to both attackers and defenders of the game.

  • Gin Ichi

    Lol Calling him an idiot was my opinion, which people would disagree im sure, but apparently im not allowed to have my own opinion about something. I would recommend logging off the internet as well if you cant handle seeing a bad name. Oh Gosh

  • Gin Ichi

    I agree with you Artemis, slightly. That is the thing tho, I would say 90% of things posted tho are complaints about people disliking the game. To a newcomer to the game or series how does that look if they see that literally everywhere? That person prolly wouldnt even buy it at that point to play it and formulate their own opinion was my point.

  • Gin Ichi

    They jumping on the power rangers DLC because the JP love rangers, which means maybe more people will buy it just focusing on sales still sadly.

  • Artemis_Polara

    A fact about people is they’re more inclined to express their dislike than their praise for something. If you’re happy with it, often you’re content to keep it to yourself. If you’re unhappy, you wish to share it with others.
    Then there are those who take the complaints too personally because they feel the dislike towards something they enjoy is a personal attack on them. Sometimes it is but that’s a big flaw about people in general because they jump from feeling people having different opinions to feeling any different opinion means they’re wrong.
    Personally I just want to see the impossible day where these chats stop insulting each other and have reasonable discussions on the game. Take personal attacks out of it please. Only talk about their opinions and thoughts on the games. If someone insults people for an opinion, it drags that person’s own arguments down in the process. So please be nice.

  • Gin Ichi

    Ok Artemis, now I 100% agree with you now. You me moist with that last statement.

  • Artemis_Polara

    To be fair about the Regalia. You can clearly see it’s just a testing thing. It’ll probably be lower to the ground when we get it. I think they need to figure out a way to reverse it from when it’s stuck. Like perhaps a small booster to lift it off the ground a little?

  • CallMeGod

    Lol oh the irony. If you aren’t being defensively at all then why was there a need to call me or anyone who voice a negative opinion on the game an idiot. Seem to me you are the one who’s being defensive, that’s why you have to resort to insults. You can call me an idiot on the internet and I wouldn’t even give a damn, but you pretty much just prove my point again with your little insult.

    Like I said, if you can’t handle people having different opinion then don’t be on the internet. No one is complaining, only you are since you’re complaining about me complaining about a game I have no interest in. So why you complaining about me complaining about you complain about you complaining about you on the internet in a game you don’t like even though I like the game that’s why I telling you to stop complaining about a game you don’t like which you’re wasting your precious time when you can do something else.

  • Gin Ichi

    “So why you complaining about me complaining about you complain about you complaining about you on the internet in a game you don’t like even though I like the game that’s why I telling you to stop complaining about a game you don’t like which you’re wasting your precious time when you can do something else.” Take your own advice. Also it isnt an insult if its true, then im just calling you out on bullshit. Btw also i only called you out and no one else because what you were saying prior was straight BS. I understand having an opinion, but when you just say the negative shit of your opinion instead of why is idiotic. One of my points was that your “opinion” was just complaining about shit that your perspective didnt like. Im not resorting to insults when I can back it up. IDK how many times i have to state my point of view for your dumbass just to overlook or be oblivious to it. It could be irony, but the most ironic thing about it is that you keep replying to it. Also if i am so defensive then so be it. Still outweights attacking something you hate over defending something you love. Please have some human intelligence.

  • CallMeGod

    Maybe some of us like this to express our disappointed of the game which like I stated we had the right to. If all you guys want is for me to say that this game is fucking super fantastic and doesn’t have no fucking problem what so ever even though it’s story is fucking garbage and flaw then there’s clearly something wrong with you guys. Like i said, every news that come out about FF15 is disappointed because remember it was reveal Tabata was the director and he said there’s no change to the story at all to the game and that’s he was going to finish what Nomura had started. Then what happen, he change the story and put his own spin on it. When people complain about FF15 being an emo boyband with no female playable characters. Tabata mention Noctis and his friends was going to join Luna in battle. Guess what happen no Luna as guest party. Remember when he said there be no cut content as all. Well, guess what the DLC for Gladios, Prompto, and Ignis is pretty much cut content because if you play the game you know already. Remember when they said there’s going to be patch for PS4PRO to have 60fps in December. Guess what happen. People are saying the story is bad and they mention about multiplayer and avatar creation that nobody even ask for. Oh wait, just a few days ago he was ask if story content that was necessary were cut he said,”Not really.”

  • CallMeGod

    LMAO. There you go again kid complaining about me complaining about you complaining about you complaining about me complaining about you wasting your time complaining when I was saying the game was great even though you’re the one who complaining about the game being bad even though Im not complaining about what your complaining. Resorting to insults again goes to show how little human intelligence you have since you’re still complaining about me complaining even though you’re complaining about yourself complaining about a game you don’t like so why you complaining about me complaining.

  • Gin Ichi

    It isnt complaining when I am making facts and your just talking out your ass moron. And you saying the game is great? When? All your posts comments prove otherwise. Again, you cannot be this retarded, or maybe your are since you are using my words like their own when it comes to “insults”, lol at least be original. Like I said before it isnt a insult if its true and you just keep replying to me shows me what I already know. You literally cannot be this dumb or any human for that fact. It isnt my fault that cannot grasp any other perspective than your own either. Keep being a dumbass and replying to me now showing that your ARE the one complaining in the first place LOL, kid.

  • xMysticx

    LOL!! Mods keep deleting honesty youve deleted my replay ?
    you mods should grow a pair

  • xMysticx

    mods keep deleting my replays so you wont get an answer
    just keep down voting me

  • xMysticx

    i wont be censored again here

    yeah ? i wanna save my brain cell from the likes of tabata
    i dont approve of XV simple cause its hardly faithful the script already done by nomura and nojima since 2011
    yet tabata again as director ? no wonder type 0 has not good reviews .. i like versus i really do i just fucking bitter on how tabata and the fans of him treat it like it isnt there … from what built on if versus is not there ?
    we get 3 game of that failightning but with a good concept is rushed to the door and has nothing but empty world . you can diss me all you want im from the vocal minority that i want this brand comes to greatness again
    i didnt have a decent FF title since lightning and her bitch ass attitude came to screen .. all who waited from 2006 to 2016 expected versus 13 and not 15
    tabata lies to the fanbase yet i hear applause to that not criticism

  • •december

    Can’t wait to give my opinions in the survey! The most important Final Fantasy XV feedback should be made public afterwards, too. The fans deserve to know.

  • •december

    “It feels like the team knew the kind of game they wanted to make, and
    then squeezed the story into it which had a knock on effect on the parts
    of the story which are criticized most for missing or being cut out.”

    This pretty much, but when you think about last minutes cuts, lots of rumours flying around about Luna and Ravus’ story cuts, and they’re believeable because Dawn Trailer hinted at Luna’s dark past. Would’ve been a cause of concern sure but with it, lots of the story and motivations and history behind both characters got removed too. There’s an update to Ravus’ backstory in March, along with Episode Gladiolus but i’m hoping to see more Luna too.

  • stevenm281

    My overall problem isn’t that people share their disappointment, my problem is that the same people SPAM their hate about the game on every articles and as a reply to anyone who gives a positive comment.

    Above everything, this site is a community for fans, therefore it should be mainly focused on positive discussions.

    You are free to offer constructive remarks about what you dislike, I even encourage to do so, but spamming and repeating the same thing over and over again, without real arguments, without respect, on a community website where it wont actually change anything as nobody from the development team read stuff here, that gets on my nerve.

    Take Noctis or Third World Tristan for instance, we KNOW they didn’t like the game, they are allowed, they voiced their opinions, they are allowed, but at this point, they drag their hate way too much, we heard them, we don’t need to hear about their hate anymore.

    At this point, the only thing that their comments are doing is piss off the fans, they’re not constructive criticism at all, they won’t help improving the game either, so why keep going down this path here?

  • stevenm281

    The Ravus update isnt confirmed for March, they never said Ravus new scenes would be only in Chapter 13, if anything, they’re working on his presence through the whole game.

    And it was clarified that Chapter 13 update will be focused on gameplay not story, which will also come at a later date.

  • stevenm281

    We share the exact same demands!

  • stevenm281

    If you know how to behave with class and respect then, why not do the same here with your comments?

  • I JUST finished the game for the first time.

    A huge amount of wasted potential there. Underused characters that were built up in Kingsglaive (Ravus and Emperor Aldercapt mainly) only to be tossed aside, a huge world from which you’re only allowed to explore 1/3 of, a boring battle system with no depth and no true threats (I beat the game in Normal Mode, not once did I get a Game Over or was I in any real danger) and 50% of the game that seems like it’s in a hurry to finish. A main villain that was helping the hero, practically holding his hand every step of the way and spoonfeeding him what he needed to do. So many things occuring off-screen, like wth?? What ever happened to in-game cut-scenes?? A whole bunch of images and shots from trailers that weren’t even in the game! Like, what, did they spend 10 years making ads and promos?! And a whole bunch of scenes at the end trying to force some sort of emotion out of me when there’s nothing there.

    I enjoyed FFXV, don’t get me wrong. It’s a good game. I liked driving around in the Regalia, fishing, seeing Ignis’ recipe’s, checking out Prompto’s pics, seeing them fool around at camp, etc. But it was just fun when it could’ve been a bloody legend! They didn’t get players invested into what they were doing. I could never think about Noctis or Gladio (or even worse, Ravus or that guy Vershtael. who was in ONE scene!) in the same way as I do Cloud or Vincent or Auron or even Seymour! And that’s cause I don’t know enough about them. This is the same issue they had with XIII. The storytelling is poor, the plot is convoluted and some of the characters are underused. Maybe Nojima’s getting old. But we need more solid stories.

  • Fay Knights

    Honestly, those comments about ” don’t play, if you don’t like” quite ignore the fact that many people LOVE final fantasy, people who back than saw that awesome versus trailer and waited 10 years for it, 10 years for a new proper ff title. People who now WANT to love it but cant because it’s so dissapointing. That’s at least how I feel. I am dissapointed of what I have seen of it, yet I will deffinitely play it, simply because it’s final fantasy. I am glad it’s selling well, and I find both positiv and negativ comment quite helpful. We do need constructiv crticism, both positiv and negativ so the next titels do better than that and more people like it.

    Just take your own advice: If negative comments offend you so much, just don’t read them!

  • XenoSilvano

    I was playing Jak & Daxter The Precursor Legacy yesterday, it is an open world game and a lot of fun to play

  • XenoSilvano

    it is because of some of the things that you mentioned that I see FINAL FANTASY XV as a betrayal to the fans, I do not know what FINAL FANTASY XV is but it is not what most of us were expecting

  • Phlegon

    It is sad how they turned a single player game into an MMO like game.
    While it’s nice they support the game and they want to improve it, all those patches and DLCs for stuff which should be there from the beginning leave a sour taste. So what are you saying to those who might want to buy the game now and play? That the game is basically not complete, that things that should already be in place are not (like the Bestiary, the story edit cut-scenes, places which are in game but are inaccessible). On top of that a too many paid DLC’s are teased and implied (beyond the current season pass). The game had huge potential. It is not a terrible game but it could have been a truly epic one. It came out unfinished and incomplete despite all those years. The moral lesson? When something takes too much time to arrive means it will never end up good.
    Now let’s hope they won’t screw VIIR and XVI/KH3.

  • XenoSilvano

    people should be allowed to express their opinions on something regardless of whether it is positive or negative and readers of those comments such as yourself should read them without discriminating, I want to read comments from people who fall inline with my own thoughts, the last thing that I would want is to read-up nothing but praise for a game that turned-out to be shit just because people out there do not want to express their true thoughts about something out of fear that they will rock the boat for little ignorant bitches like you who want them to stay silent

  • XenoSilvano

    “Personally I’d say we just all need to be more civil about our feelings
    towards the game and have a more reasonable discussion. :)”

    so why would you up-vote someone who who insults people who express reasonable qualms with the game and thinks that they should remain silent, there was nothing about CallMeGod that was not civil

  • XenoSilvano

    likewise

  • XenoSilvano

    or you can pick up the game and judge it for yourself rather than relaying on the opinions of others

  • XenoSilvano

    “this site is a community for fans, therefore it should be mainly focused on positive discussions”

    just because someone is a fan of previous titles does not mean that they should not criticise what they think that they ought to

    this is a website that publishes news about Square-enix games and allows disqus users to comment on what was written, it is more a blog than a fan site

    just as commenters are allowed to praise games as many times as they want to so should the commenters who condemn it, you are going to start pissing people off when you minimise and shun the qualms that people think are legitimate as if they have no merit

  • XenoSilvano

    it is just like all the other superfluous content that they added to the game, they are stuffing it full of pointless content rather then focusing on patching-up the gapping wound that is all the plot holes and lousy game-play

  • stevenm281

    As I said, I don’t mind complaints, I’ll even upvote the ones that are well written and well explained, but there is a difference of behavior between a “disappointed fan” and a common “hater”.

    Most complaints found here (Nova Crystallis) aren’t written the way a displeased fan would argue, but more like a hater do, by saying: Fuck this shit, I demand an apology, worst game ever, Square Enix can go to hell, every fan of this game should die, etc. And more then often, its from the same people, who just can’t let it go.

    There are places more appropriate for people disappointment to be shared like Reviews articles, official Square Enix social media, letters to Square Enix headquarters, surveys, etc.

  • XenoSilvano

    hold on, hold on, hold on…

    maybe those people just want to vent their frustrations out after being disappointed with what they got, how good are you at articulating your thoughts when all you want to do is vex

    trying is not making this right, try as they may, it is really hard to undo what has all ready been ####-##

    I guess we do not owe them anything either, Japanese fans are making that very clear

    I seriously doubt that they will be able to do that, I doubt that many
    of the issues that people raised about here will even make it into the
    game when it is ultimately finalised, they will add touches to the game but it will not be anything near what fans are hoping that they will do

    Yes people are those who notice that the game has some flaws and will not admit, that in FINAL FANTASY XV’s case, are game-breaking flaws

    I think that a lot of the commenters who criticise certain aspects of the game raise legitimate complaints, I feel like an apology is warranted because the game is obviously missing bits and pieces, there is absolutely no way that the developers did not know this (why else delay the scheduled release), they new it and they decided to published it none-the-less, regardless of whoever was responsible for this, I think that an apology or a recognition of failure to deliver something that was more complete is appropriate, what I do not like is the fact that as a business it would be against their interest to admit that they ####-##, I think that they should be more candid to theirs fans for betraying their trust

    put it this way, lets say you go to your favourite restaurant to have your favourite dish, the cook who typically makes that dish exactly the way you like it is sick, but you are ‘promised’ that their other cook prepares the dish in just the same way you are used to, how would you feel if the dish that is presented to you does not meet your expectation due to it missing bits and pieces of the game(?)

    I am not just referring to the stuff that was shown in the FINAL FANTASY versus XIII trailers, I am also referring to the fact that FINAL FANTASY XV is incomplete, there are things missing from that game

  • XenoSilvano

    I am sure that some of the commenters here have come across Final Fantasy Peasant’s YouTube video, even the ideas that they through around in his video are far better than what the FINAL FANTASY XV development team put-out

  • XenoSilvano

    “I want to name mine Noodles”

  • XenoSilvano

    no offence but seeing as you are the most ardent promoter of these expansions to the game that I am aware of, I feel like you are the one who has most to lose if all of that content ends up not meeting your hopes and exceptions

    you keep presumption that these expansions are going to make the game great

    I do not feel like that is the case, I do not think that they are willing to invest that sort of time

  • CallMeGod

    Sorry, but Nojima have nothing to do with how FF15 turn out. Tabata and his team change everything and kept only the original concept of what Nomura and Nojima wrote for the story. They pretty much rewritten the original script of the story and what you said is what we got a piece of shit storytelling.

  • CallMeGod

    I know it was a real shame because FF15 had the potential to be fantastic. Heck I even bought the Kingsglaive, watch all Brotherhood episodes and was excited to play FF15. Even the beginning of the game was good, but then the second half just complete ruin the experience for me. I remember Tabata say the second half was suppose to be linear to focus more on the story and I was happy to hear that. However, it’s pretty sad how the second half turn out with all villians kill of screen and there’s no emotional attachments what so ever for the characters.

  • XenoSilvano

    “As I said, I don’t mind complaints” – whops

    I am so indignant with the way that the game turned-out, that there will be days when all I want to do is vent my frustration in a non-constructive fashion, I will admit, the frustration goes that deep

    I feel like the people who disagree are being somewhat purposefully ignorant to blatantly obvious flaws that are game-braking in my opinion

    we should not be satisfied with receiving something that was far below your expectation

    even if constructive comments are transmitted directly to the developers of this game, that does not mean in the slightest that anything will be done about them, who knows if they are just requesting people to express their thoughts as a ploy to deceive them psychologically in to thinking that the developers give a damn about what they think

    at least I can vent my frustration with a community of peers and have a back and forth with those who are like-minded and those who are not

    if this is the sort of games that we can expect from future FINAL FANTASY titles, then I think that it would be more appropriate to consider myself as a hopeful fan of the franchise given that they are coming out with content that is less appealing to me than what they had done before

    I like the fact that there are people out there that see things in the same way that I do, it makes me feel normal

  • Gin Ichi

    Seriously can you at least be original and try not to use my own words like their your own. And again keep assuming im mad or its sad like an ass. It seems your the one mad not trying to make any points and just using what I said in the first place back at me.It isnt my fault that you either ignorant AF or you just cannot grasp another’s perspective. Like I said before Defending something you love is still better than attacking something you hate. No Logic in that esp if like 100% of your comments on are before me, where also negative. Only one mad here is you at the game like it owed you something.

  • Gin Ichi

    That is true and half my point, but this is 2017 more than half of the gamers are casuals or people thhat really never tried a FF game. If it is a casual or a serious gamer that has never played a ff game and was semi interested and then thery see complaining about the game EVERYWHERE, you still think that person would buy the game?? EVen bad games far worse than FF15 are doing well just because it has good praise or heresay from other people who like it i.e. H1Z1 a game that is bugged to shit is well liked now these days.

  • Artemis_Polara

    Here’s something to understand. I’d rather they be here than fucking off after stating their opinions. I don’t want all dissenting opinions to leave. If that happens we become some one dimensional community who circle jerk our opinions. Yeah I’d rather not be that. So while I disagree with many of their opinions, I want them around to discuss those opinions. The main problem is how people go about it with one another. Also of course they’re going to comment on every XV article with their opinions, why not? They’re letting their feelings out and hearing new stuff refreshes quite a bit of it.
    I’m currently waiting till the next patch comes out to ever touch the game. Also my enjoyment of the game actually has improved with time after I’ve had time to process my initial disappointment. That is a bit I’d say those naysayers should try. Maybe it’ll work, maybe it won’t.

  • Artemis_Polara

    Interesting method of undermining my argument. You also completely ignored the fact that I haven’t insulted anyone in this comment section. (Though I will totally admit I’ve been at odds with people in the past (In case you go back and try to bring that up)

    Anyway to address your point, I partially agree with their perspective and think some people should tone it down a bit. However I generally upvote people who defend the game in general. (If you look, I’ve been consistent on that front) I’m on the defender’s side overall. I only jumped in after continuing to read through the arguments and that’s when I decided to bring up the attempts to be nicer. Personally I think the comments have been too hostile (on both sides) since XV came out. That’s why I’ve been much less vocal than I was in the past.

    Anyway, like I said, I’m on the side of the people defending the game from those who attack it. But I want both sides to be less hostile and more open to others opinions.

    Also since I did read this:
    “FINAL FANTASY XV is a betrayal”
    I’m split on that. Personally I think Tabata and the dev team are not at fault. Only the higher ups who forced them to rush it out. So I think it’s a betrayal of SE’s top dicks. But of the actual devs, nope. Also since they’re trying to improve the game, you can’t say they are assholes. An asshole would’ve released the DLC and ignored the community.
    Also don’t try and pull up some interview to justify the story bits or a leak. I’ve read them all and still hold that opinion.

    I went off track obviously but anyway, I welcome your response.

  • •december

    Your opinion stands. It’s the internet, you’re allowed to have your opinion and so am I. The game is great. It’s hollow skeleton of a story & character’s backstories overshadows what was good about it.

    Nobody knows what the future holds, but Episode Gladiolus, Ignis and Prompto already were announced as part of the Season Pass (bought it with the game so I wasn’t butthurt like others) which will expand the world of Eos.

    Episode Gladiolus comes with updates to Chapter 13 and Ravus, so what I’m “presuming” is happening. It’s unlikely Episode Gladiolus gets canceled. After all 3 DLC have finished the game will look a heck of a lot different, and yes I believe the game will be greater.

  • •december

    Does it matter? They’re adding more to the game that’s what I want? Where did I say it needs to be more story, or needs to be specifically more gameplay? I didn’t – I want both, I can’t wait.

  • stevenm281

    You said that Ravus backstory was coming in March, I was merely saying this is not true. What’s coming in March is a revision of the Chapter 13 gameplay.

  • It’s not a piece of shit. Don’t dismiss it so easily. The foundation is there. They just messed up with the execution cause of their need to get it out in time. How ironic that we waited 10 years and yet we still got a rushed product…

  • Gin Ichi

    You missed the whole point and it wasnt my advice to ignore the negative. My advice was, yea dont “play it, if you dont like it”. I Still mean it, I just dont understand how people go further than playing it to take it to a outsider source to hate on it more. I also hate hearing that people waiting 10yrs for this and it should be good based on time giving. Come the hell on…everyone would of bought it if took 1 yr or 10yrs. Not like you guys are sitting in a dark dank prison cell waiting.
    “People who now WANT to love it but cant because it’s so dissapointing. That’s at least how I feel.” See that isnt constructive criticism when you havent’ said why but that doesnt matter either if you think everybody is like you though.

    “I am glad it’s selling well, and I find both positiv and negativ comment quite helpful. We do need constructiv crticism, both positiv and negativ so the next titels do better than that and more people like it.” I can agree with you there but when it is 90% of it negative it becomes extremely one sided. Also like i keep saying im defending a game a I do enjoy but can understand what is wrong with it also but still, how am I only one getting replies like I cannot have my own opinion. Please say It offends me because everyone is replying to me like i Personally attacked them and their offended. Makes sense.

  • Shinobuden

    Well, I’m not going to type out a comment while I’m angry or frustrated for one. It’s a recipe for the example I just provided. If their comments were constructive that’d be one thing, but many people’s comments are not. If people can’t calm down to type out their comments in a calm and collected manner they shouldn’t comment at all.

    This is a point you and I will just have to agree to disagree on then, because I find that way of thinking extremely narrow-minded and I will personally never understand it.

    Naturally. If they were to add every little thing people wanted to be added we’d be looking at Versus XIII instead of XV by the end of this. It’s not realistic, resources or otherwise.

    “Game-breaking flaws” is subjective though. What you feel is a game-breaking flaw may not be something someone else sees as a game-breaking flaw. Which is fine in and of itself, but stop trying to make it appear as if it’s some universal rule that just because you think it is that is how it is. I do agree the game has flaws though, so don’t get me wrong.

    I agree that there are some people who do raise legitimate complaints. I’ve agreed with some of them, in fact. However, an apology? Sorry but no. I will always disagree here no matter what you say.
    They postponed it to deal with what they could for as long as they could, but that amount of time still wasn’t enough to address everything. Also, they had a deadline. Why can people not comprehend this? They were contractually obligated to have the game released in 2016 no matter what, so it wasn’t just a simple matter of “knew this and decided to publish it nonetheless” as you’re trying to make it out to be. They literally had no choice in the matter. What would you have had them do? Push for another postponement, despite the binding nature of contracts, and risk having to cancel the game? Come on man. Be realistic.
    Honestly though? This fanbase doesn’t deserve an apology. It’s literally a fanbase that is overflowing with self-entitled man-children and woman-children that can never be fully pleased, and these people will always cuss SE to hell if a game even slightly deviates from their idea of perfection. I guarantee you an apology wouldn’t be enough for many people even if SE were to give us one. Please note that when I say this I don’t mean everyone.

    I’d be displeased for sure, but I wouldn’t demand an apology. Even if it wasn’t made to perfection I’d take what I got, unless it was completely inedible (I was raised in poverty so I’m not picky).

    I’ll counter your analogy with an analogy of my own.
    Let’s say you’re sitting at a poker game with your friends. You spill all your beer over the money (a pot of $500 let’s say, this being XV) and the money is ruined. You give them all their money back the following week, and even a little extra (the extra stuff they will add at no expense to us) but they demand you to get down on your knees and apologize anyway because a few of the bills are shriveled (this being you and those who feel like you that SE owe you an apology due to how XV was released, i.e the shriveled money). See the absurdity? Probably not, but it was worth a shot.
    Sorry, analogies aren’t my strong point, but I hope the point gets across nonetheless.

    I suppose I’m a fool for asking this, but when will people get over Versus XIII? I’m not even taking people who mention that game in their arguments for XV seriously anymore.
    As for XV, I’m fully aware there are things missing in the game and I never said there weren’t. They’re trying to fix that though, like I’ve said. If what they fix or add isn’t to your liking, then just stop buying games from SE and move on to a company you feel is more reliable and trustworthy. Personally though, I can’t ignore the fact that these people feel an immense amount of guilt over the state the game was released in and are earnestly trying to make it up for us, much less demand an apology from them. The fact that they’re going as far as fixing it all, when they could have just left XV to fade into obscurity, says more to me than any apology they could give me and I respect them for that.

  • Bobby/Godless

    Nomura had a concept, not a story lol

  • Bobby/Godless

    Not true really.

  • Third World Tristan

    True in ever word.

  • Third World Tristan

    They delete mine on a regular basis.

    You HAVE TO like this game here.

  • Bobby/Godless

    Ok

  • xMysticx

    nojima and nomura had story for trilogy ffvs13 since 2011 and its finished
    but dissidia writter had to delete all nojimas and numoras work and burned all he shit writting skill to 1 game

    in other words this game has tabatas shitty story telling and game play and more so her enjoys the ATR so much and asks the ” fags ” ops fans on what they want as fan service ….. really ? thats all of you care about fanservice ?

    rip sakaguchi left and the amazing story telling leaves with him

    you guys asked for xv and the trash fanservice with it

  • Bobby/Godless

    Oh so you know the story or you just think you do? Cause last I checked, there was just a concept, and I followed it all the way through.

    Yeah XV wasn’t perfect and that’s fine, but at least it released.

  • xMysticx

    all of you shit on nomura but he value quality and not quantity hence why KH fans have no problem waiting cause they know it will be amazing. and all blame him for not releasing it

    all SE does with FF pretty much the same as Sonic franchise every year we have a broken FF .. no wonder employees leave SE after finishing a title lol

    tabata enjoys your attention to him every now and then ATR asking bull crap and not the actual thing … no wonder also FF community is divided in VS13 and XV

    i will not support SE and let the new gen players eat SE flavor shit all long
    you guys seem to like none driven story game and open world shit

  • Bobby/Godless

    I love Nomura dont get me wrong, but don’t act like VXIII was finished cause if it was, we would’ve gotten it.

    Keep your insults to yourself.

  • xMysticx

    where did i ”insult” you ?
    xv fandpm at its finest cant accept truth

  • Ryuke

    Making posts calling people “fags”, and calling the mods “butt hurt” and to “grow a pair” are all insults, and probably the reason why your posts get flagged and some deleted. Making further posts raging about it and throwing more insults out there further justifies them being flagged, and then you wonder why replies are deleted? It’s not deleting honesty, it’s deleting immature and offensive content.

  • xMysticx

    which is the truth nothing more you guys delete/block call who disagree with you weeb just because we disapprove of ffxv LOL!!!
    butthurts

  • Artemis_Polara

    Please tone it down. You’re making the ones who try to throw rational criticism at the game look bad. (And I do mean those who don’t like it)
    In fact, it feels like you’re just trying to provoke the ones who enjoy it. Kinda sad. Anyway, please try and keep it clean. Also I’m aiming that at the ones who are overreacting and getting mad at the criticism.

  • xMysticx

    LMAO!!! ”clean ” if i dont want to keep it ” kid friendly ”
    go ahead and block me and delete my comments
    who ” gives criticism is just new ” fags ” ops ops fans just an error there sowwy

  • Ryuke

    As I said, you are being flagged / deleted due to the inappropriate comments, not because of your opinions over FFXV. But by all means continue to rage away at yourself behind everyone’s block lists.

  • Artemis_Polara

    I’ve not blocked him yet. He really does need to grow up though.

  • Artemis_Polara

    sigh… I just mean the hostility just makes this place more and putrid. Do you just want to hurt those who disagree with you?
    If you throw out insults then your argument is degraded to just whining and no one will take your seriously. You should obviously know this. Also if you hold your opinion higher than others then you need to re-evaluate yourself a bit. I’m more then welcome to a debate about the game’s merits.
    When I joined this site, I rather enjoyed them. Now these comments sections are toxic and full of people angry at each other and trying to hurt one another. In the end, I’d say grow up.

  • xMysticx

    go ahead !!! i dont care like ive been scared of you fucking ffxv fags

  • Artemis_Polara

    point proven

  • xMysticx

    yeah you are a fag

  • Artemis_Polara

    I’m bored, explain. Because your evidence leaves much to be desired.

  • xMysticx

    you are bored ?? not my problem you want to be entertained ? go play you gold ffxv the holy it cant be criticized

  • Ryuke

    I give a couple of chances, but I don’t think it’s any use with this one. Probably won’t be long until a ban to be honest.

    I love discussing the game, and other games in the series, but there’s a difference between discussing and stating opinions and views, and just ranting away like a child. Add rude and offensive language on top and I’m just like, no, buh-bye.

  • Artemis_Polara

    You clearly are jumping to conclusions. I enjoy the game certainly, but I have my share of complaints. I have problems with the story, character development, and a few other things. And it most certainly can be criticized. I just prefer it in a healthy environment. That’s all. Sadly we do not have that luxury .

  • Artemis_Polara

    I completely agree. Unfortunately he’ll likely make another account and keep going.

  • xMysticx

    i just said it once and i reposted it once more but YOU flagged it because its ” offensive” and you all of you dismiss it so why the hell i act like a broken record and post it again ?

    tabata and his team are retarded and the point proven by pc port with mod support and thats not all with cup noodles and this love with death ending in every entry he directs ohhh thats not all he is the perfect one to murder an entry

    fucking despise his attitude and his attention whoring in every ATR and giving trash fanservice! just the max retardation

  • Artemis_Polara

    I flagged it? The only thing I’ve flagged that you posted was you calling me a fag.

  • Artemis_Polara

    I know it was an in general statement but still. The emphasis on “YOU” needed to be addressed.

  • xMysticx

    your friends flag what i say and type call me offensive
    whats offensive its the way you eat the trash with no question

  • Artemis_Polara

    If I called the game the best thing ever with no flaws, you would certainly have an argument against me. But you don’t. I’ve stated I have my share of complaints and things I want to see improved. So yeah, your argument there is invalid.

  • xMysticx

    i do have an argument but would you listen ?
    would you think of it as a point of view ?
    naahhhh , cause all i list is being flagged and be called a weeb just for disliking it and disapprove of it

  • Artemis_Polara

    Or your vulgarity and blatant hostility? I’ve seen others who have their stuff still up who have shared their problems with the game and they didn’t insult people. Why don’t you just try that? Maybe then people might listen.

  • xMysticx

    i am hostle because i havent had a good entry since X fucking treat the brand as a cow to milk and more so disregard the old demographic fanbase and replace it with young ones …..

    the young players dk shot SE does so they reach their pockets
    FF now fanservice brand LOL

  • Artemis_Polara

    I’m fairly certain I can call myself among the somewhat older fanbase. (I jumped in at 7) (Loved 4 when I played it) and I still enjoy XV. (Much much more than the poor excuse of a game known as XIII). So I’d say don’t try and say the older fanbase isn’t enjoying it either. Clearly some of them are.

  • xMysticx

    so you are as old as i am you bit understand the sour tast but least you enjoy it in my case i fucking broke my 1080i 42” tv

    didnt touch my ps4 ever since

  • Artemis_Polara

    If you broke your TV over a game, you have anger management you need to deal with.

  • xMysticx

    LOL i hardly get angry thats in fact
    the thing got me angry that tabata and his retarded team touch it now you enjoy it
    i returned my game fucking done with company cant wait to se Neir automata sells good cause the dev care about their fans and more so yoko taro is legend and dont care what everyone think of him

    the day SE release versus again rebranded the day they win me back but as of this moment they wont have me spending in their shit i leave it for the babies

  • Artemis_Polara

    Nier Automata won’t sell as well as XV even if it’s a great game. It’ll probably do well for what it is though. I’m not getting it, nor am I interested.
    Also again, the derogatory commentary only proves you need to chill out.

  • xMysticx

    it will maybe not as much as the ”holy ” ffxv ” but good enough to make it a house hold name

  • Artemis_Polara

    Here’s a thing, most people I know think the game is, at best, pretty good. Personally I don’t think it’s Tabata’s or the dev team’s fault. They were contractually obligated to release it when they did. They clearly needed another year or two. I would’ve given that time if it were up to me but the higher ups didn’t and we got a stripped down game. And I know Tabata can do good because Crisis Core was pretty damn fun. (Type-0 too if you played it as a handheld and not as a PS4 game expecting a full big game)
    So yeah, jumping on him is mostly because he was the public face of the game with the ATRs and every other public appearance of it.

  • xMysticx

    CC was a luck for him to make 3rd brithday and type0 are suckish
    this dude { i think} has a death complex … lol !!!!

  • Bobby/Godless

    Your comments below prove everything. It’s alright to not like XV, but you don’t have to rage at everyone for it. You can try to have a normal conversation.

  • Thiago Acaccio

    Put arguments Bobby, you are being a blind fanboy.

  • xMysticx

    please go ahead and ban me XV fans are bunch of sell outs

  • xMysticx

    sure i will you cant censor any one who disagree with you sell outs

  • Artemis_Polara

    Seriously dude? You’re just whining and calling us names at this point. Why should we take you seriously when you act like this? Hell I thought we reached something of an understanding? I’m disappointed in you… What little that’s worth.

  • Vendon

    Nah.

  • Kristine Ryeng

    Do i have to have platium to play the dlc

  • no

  • oh if I could add, another thing that peeves me is Square-enix self-imposed arrogant ignorance, they publish accolades video show all the 9/10 cherry picked score they received, that just oozes of blatant denial

    I cannot believe that the company that made the awesome games that I loved when I was younger would resort to dirty tricks of deception like this, shame on them, they are betraying their fan-base

  • FINAL FANTASY XV began development during the end of 2013, they had 3 years to come up with something

    The director is the guarantor of completion, the blame will always fall on them because they are the ones in charge

  • are you both sure that the disappearance of your comments is not due to technical issues

  • Third World Tristan

    I am. My comments disappear every time when I bash the director of FFXV.

  • Everybody needs to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqba85KVR_g

  • Artemis_Polara

    Given they had to switch it from Nomura to Tabata because Nomura seems to not like finishing things within a reasonable amount of time, Tabata was obviously the only choice to even have the game finished.
    Also he was in charge but given he wasn’t the one who could dictate how much time he had to work on it, it’s not really his fault they couldn’t do everything. Also it’s a similar argument with ME3 and how it was rushed. It wasn’t the dev team’s fault, it was the ones who didn’t give them enough time. Also if you say 3 years was enough, it wasn’t. An open world game like FFXV needed 4-5 years.

    So all in all, they needed more time. They didn’t have it. Hell, I wonder how bad it was that they managed to convince the higher ups to allow the delay.
    So yeah, you can blame Tabata all you wish. I blame the ones who put him and the dev team into a cage.

  • Bobby/Godless

    Quite the contrary, but if that’s how you feel, who am I to try and explain eh?

  • Bobby/Godless

    How many times are you going to bash him? In every single article?

    Cause if so, then your comments should disappear.

  • Third World Tristan

    Dude, you can take your censorship and stuff it.

  • Bobby/Godless

    Yeah, that’s what I thought.

  • okay, lets pin all the blame on Nomura shall we, he will be our scapegoat, people keep bad-mouthing Nomura even though nobody has any idea what is going on at Square-enix, you think that they would dismiss him were he as incompetent as people assume him to be, I do not buy it, FINAL FANTASY XV is open world, you are probably going to need quite a big staff (I think it was about 300) but 3 years should be enough to make a working game

    imagine if I told you “I have this great idea for a game, if you finance me, not only will I make a great game that every one will absolutely love within 3 years, you are also going to make a health profit from the investment”, I am sure that you would be peeved if the development team told you that we need more time and more money, that is why I ultimately think that it is the directors responsibility to assure that everything goes as planned, this is why he did not get any sleep, I am pretty sure that he was anxious about what his team had and had not prepared to present to the public, did you see how nervous he was at the uncovered event, that was not just stage fright at work there, I think he was genuinely scared ######### about what his team had prepared, the uncovered event was more like a marketing hype machine anyway, at least now that Square-enix made the investment money back, I can see him exhaling a sigh of relief

  • The purpose to my comment was not to undermined the argument of your entire comment, it was specifically directed towards the statement:

    “Personally I’d say we just all need to be more civil about our feelings towards the game and have a more reasonable discussion. :)”

    and yet you upvoted gin ichi’s comment that says this:

    “Then stop playing it, going on forums about it, looking for threads and posts about it, and bitching about it? People like you are idiots and just wanna bitch and hear their own voice and see themselves talk. Otherwise you just look like a bitch complaining.”

    although this may not be the case for every upvote, when you upvote someone’s comment, it gives the impression that you are condoning everything that was mentioned within it, there is bit of a mismatch there, I upvote all of the negative comments towards the game because it mirrors my own, I can sympathise with the commenter’s qualms, even though, I try not to up-vote comments that I do not wholly agree with

    I have gone through this in my previous comments, to mention it again for posterity, I see it as a betrayal because they released a game that was shoddy, there were aspects to it that were incomplete, the experience that gamers got for a game at the time of release was not complete, complete in the sense that a lot of people can tell that there are various issues with the story that they attempted to pass off as complete, I think that DLC should only be reserved for extra content, not content that should have been part of the game at release, I think that is down right wrong and therefore a betrayal

    I want a refund

    I was not entirely sure what you meant with this:

    “Also don’t try and pull up some interview to justify the story bits or a leak. I’ve read them all and still hold that opinion.”

  • Artemis_Polara

    Nomura has a problem of taking on too many things at once which had caused him to not have much focus or good management. That’s based on fact. During versus’s time and early XV era, he did over 4 KH games, the start of the HD Remixes and starting KH3, not to mention all the artwork he does for them. None of that can be disputed.
    I’m not disputing Nomura’s ability to make quality games but the amount of time spent on Versus, the team constantly being taken off to work on XIII, and Nomura spreading himself thing. Obviously he couldn’t finish the game.
    Also let’s be frank, if he’d had kept the trilogy idea going, people would be pissed and react like it was another XIII trilogy. (Even if it was supposed to be one unlike XIII which was dragged out because Motomu Toriyama loves Lightning)
    Anyway I’m not scapegoating Nomura. Preferably, I would’ve wanted him and Tabata to have kept the co-directing roles going to work off of each other for the best result.

  • Artemis_Polara

    Well I did write a long ass comment to counter your argument, point out you upvoted my stuff on this page about being nice, upvoted overtly hostile comments that were aimed at me for defending the game, etc. I’ll point out I defend the merits of the game because, while incomplete, it’s still good. Those are my stances on the matter.
    The website crashed and I lost it all so this was the abridged version

  • Shinobuden

    Well, they can I suppose. If they don’t want to be taken seriously that is.

    Be sure to never expect that day to come, because it won’t.

    I like how you say this as if you know for a fact Versus XIII would have been better when it was little more than a concept. 4/10 made me chuckle at least.

    I personally don’t consider the story the most important aspect of an RPG, so no we don’t agree. It’s important for sure, but for me it’s important that an RPG feels good to play as well. XV felt good to play for me. So…broken? I don’t agree there. But does it have a bunch of cracks in it? That it does.

    Yeah…this part and the rest of your comment (along with the other comment you posted after this one) shows that you don’t understand what I was saying at all nor why they had to release it in the state it was. You’re just too angry to see clearly, and as such I see no point in discussing this further with you as it would simply be a waste of time.

    Cheers.

  • xMysticx

    it is as you put it all xv fandom dismiss numora as a fail director when he directed KH series wonderfully and pin everything on him for failing in this one

    they fail to remember that ff13 staff took from his staff til he had none to helped him the the fail lightning is more important than this so they snatched him from his own staff to complete ff13

    the story from numor and nojima is perfectly done and up for all stages but that lazy tabata and ito had to burn the story to 1 game fucking that woman needs to be fired

  • I know what that is like, it really sucks to lose everything that you had written after investing so much time having written it

    but hay if you are using the Firefox web-browser, there is an add-on known as ‘Textarea Cache’ which saves all of what you have input into a comment box, it should save what was written even if the browser or operating system crashes

  • xMysticx

    it will disappear if not now later like dual shock
    try calling on the short comings
    in 1 sec you are blocked deleted and banned in few secs poof

  • I think that Square-enix most certainly does take the opinions of fans seriously, even the one’s who want to vent their frustrations because once they being to fail to meet sales is when they will wish that they had, I am sure that you are aware of Tabata stating that the regard for the franchise has wand over the years

    ehh, we are fallible human beings sunny jim, no matter how much we would like to think that we can being objective at all times, we are incapable of it, so go pass you BS off to someone else who is gullible enough to believe that your does not stink

    I have read a comment from people who have worked on the game who have claimed that the concept that was drawn-out for versus would have been better than what XV became, I am sure that quite a lot of people out there including myself are all inclined to agree

    can you believe that I have actually lost the motivation to continue talking to you, I feel like I am wasting my time with someone who has difficulty comprehending what it was that I wrote, rather than actually basing your replies off of what I wrote, you are basing your comments on what you presume that I wrote

    based on what you chose to write in your reply leads me to believe
    that you should consider improving your reading comprehension skills,
    your comment is brimming with fallacies (comprehension fails)

    You do well to do so, I could hand you your ass right back to you on a silver plater but someone of your comprehension level just would not be worth the effort, why should I waste my time trying to debate with someone who keeps passing is presumptions as though they were notions made by me, if you are expecting me to take responsibility of your presumptions that you are sorely mistaken

  • Randy Marsh

    *cough* *cough* Ahem…

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