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Final Fantasy XV version 1.03 out now; adds New Game+ and various bug fixes By Erren Van Duine on December 20, 2016 at 7:27 PM

Square Enix has just dropped a new version update to Final Fantasy XV, featuring a few free bonuses ahead of the game’s Holiday Pack due out on December 22.

The patch itself weighs in around 3.2GB and offers various bug fixes, New Game+ mode that allows players to carry over certain data from a previous playthrough and additional bonus content. Bonus content includes the new photo frame feature where players can choose from a variety of themed photo frames that can be applied to Prompto’s many photographs.

Note that by starting New Game+ you’ll need to manually create a new save. The things carried over seem to be items, costumes and settings, weapons, levels and Ascension skills. The upgraded Engine Blade (Ultima Blade), however, will go back to its original version and the Regalia returns to its stock state should you have transformed it to the airship model.

Unfortunately, New Game+ does not offer any additional difficulty levels beyond Easy and Normal. Enemy difficulty also remains unchanged.

For more on Final Fantasy XV including our full review of the game, head here.

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  • β€’december

    INSTANT-LIKE!

    Reckon it’s the bug fix that enemies disappear often sometimes if you stay awake too long? Then you have to re-load the latest save for them to reappear again? Might be… anyways…!

  • Fvckinskate

    Hope they don’t fix Shield of the Just / Whistle AP farming, Won’t update until I know I can still fill Ascencion grid without playing for another 100 hours.

  • I hope everything they learn from this game makes making 7R and 16 easier. I don’t want to still have bugs fixed months after a game is out. I’ll get free DLC if it’s serious subject matter but that’s it. I don’t want holiday stuff or anything non-canon or too humorous.

  • Mateus Vinicius

    That is not a bug. Also, they are even adding other items to get more AP.

  • The Ascension grid was too grind-heavy. 99 this. 333 that. That was ridiculous. From the time chapter 10 ended to the start of the last chapter it took all the AP I had to get the last accessory slot for Noctis only. Made worst, most of chapter 13 fives no EXP or AP.

  • stevenm281

    3 GB for some fixes, a New Game+ mode, and some photo frames? Ain’t that a bit big? Surely there is other stuff added.

  • CRIMSON-XIII

    i wonder what the bug fixes were

  • Nick Greeley

    Some of that more than likely replaces already installed data, like 1.02 did

  • Fvckinskate

    Not a bug but clearly could be labeled as ”exploit”.

  • Jayme

    Anyone know what data carries over? I won’t start my NG+ til after all DLC is released but would be nice to know now

  • Invictus

    3gb? Man, as soon as I booted mine it’s a whopping 11gb patch!!! Probably includes the holiday pack?

  • Invictus

    Just the data on your previous game.

  • stevenm281

    well, you had the Crown Update since release that is 7-9 GB (I don’t remember exactly how big it was)

  • Eddie Battikha

    Crown update

  • Invictus

    I know but I have installed it back in day one. So means to say it will still redownload again with the new game+ and other holiday pack? Damn it.

  • Invictus

    But crown update had been installed since day one. So it will still redownload plus new game plus and other stuff?

  • Eddie Battikha

    3.2 gb patch for me on PS4 Pro, oh well game on brother.

  • stevenm281

    no idea…

  • β€’december

    No Type-F Regalia or chocobos, obviously, cause it’s a new game,
    and that would not make sense…
    but you get to keep stuff like Kingsglaive outfits/weapons

  • Fvckinskate

    Mine is 7Gb, already had 1.02 installed. I’m in canada.

  • stevenm281

    I’m in Canada as well and it was 3.2…

  • Nick

    Hope this fixes the black screen save issue. Had to start again after 157 hours of play.

  • saintjules

    To me if the point of NG+ was to carry over levels, ascension stats, etc. Then I’d be expecting stronger enemies at a higher difficulty. For that option to not be present doesn’t make much sense to me.

  • saintjules

    Ouch!

  • Paladin Joe

    I was hoping there would be more to NG+. extra difficulty setting or a reset to your levels but keep the same stats so you can get AP easier. Oh well I guess.

  • Larxene howar

    So I wouldn’t call that new game plus
    It’s just basically Speed run +
    That’s disappointing

  • Randy_Thompson

    “Note that by starting New Game+ you’ll overwrite your original save.”

    I assume making a second duplicate save means you’d be fine?

  • theodor70941

    Yes you’d be fine if you have another save

  • danlei88

    My game just glitched out in a weird way inside one of the optional dungeons. Hopefully this new update prevents such things from happening. Buggiest console game I have ever played, especially with the post-game content.

  • Anton Villarica Lagda

    I’m still waiting for the PS4 PRO patch 60fps… πŸ™

  • Marleafs_87

    Why is this update 3gb? lmao

  • Marleafs_87

    Yup. Just another example of how FFXV tries but fails to implement basic modern game mechanics.

  • Marleafs_87

    First kick at open world = bugs

  • Marleafs_87

    The fight area system needs fixing. I’ve had enemies walk close to/outside the red ring and when I try to attack them, the fight ends since I am also outside the red ring when attacking said enemy. DOY!

  • Mahtae Myong

    Nixperience Band – A device that stops experience points from being tallied, preventing the party from leveling up for an added challenge. This item was added in the new update now stop your crying.

  • Mahtae Myong

    You don’t even know what’s all in the new update so stop commenting with no knowledge of the new update

  • Mahtae Myong

    Nixperience Band – A device that stops experience points from being tallied, preventing the party from leveling up for an added challenge. This item was added in the new update. If you guys did your research you would know this.

  • Mateus Vinicius

    Don’t worry, it is not. You’re not using a bug in the game or anything. You literally just uses an item to summon monsters, then attack them with a weapon. The max they can do is nerf the area which the Shield deals damage to make it harder, what I highly doubt they’ll do.

  • Mateus Vinicius

    Open World = Bugs*

    Really, any Open World game has a lot of those.

  • Daniel Masterson

    funny how for one person it can be “buggiest console game I have ever played” and for me I literally had zero problems post game. In fact it was one of the most bug free experiences i’ve ever had. Just weird.

  • danlei88

    Strange indeed. Consider yourself very lucky. I’ve had to redo couple of lengthy extra dungeons because of the issues.

    I’ve had problems ranging from getting literally stuck inside a statue’s hand to random crashes etc. Just today one of the battles glitched so that the HUD went away and I couldn’t move or do anything. My AI bros couldn’t hurt any of the enemies so couldn’t just wait the battle out either. Only option was to close the game and restart.

  • Jerry Atienza

    I agree. No bugs here for me either.

  • A’zinra Fen

    You say that the Nixperience band stops exp from tallying. It seems that on ng+, which carries over you level, that would just keep you at the level you were already at. You would just have to start a regular new game, which kinda defeats the point of ng+

  • Alvaro Alcaraz

    Sooo… do you need to play new game+ to get all the update stuff? Can’t you stick with your 1st data and get the new stuff? Doesnt makr sense to me to do all over again since its the same thing.. no added challenge.

  • leroy jenkins

    So where do i get the items they added? Are they supposed to be automatically added to inventory? I don’t see them, do I have to buy them or do I have to start NG+?

  • danlei88

    If you mean the Holiday Pack stuff, I think those will be unlocked 22nd December. Don’t quote me on that though.

  • leroy jenkins

    Yea the Carnival ticket is what I’m most concerned with since it’s only supposed to be available for a limited time. Thanks for the response.

  • Eric Curtis

    I wonder if this is related to playing the game after the system was on Stand-By I swear the game acts wonky if you try to play it from being suspended.

  • danlei88

    Ah that might be it! The extra dungeons are longer than my regular play sessions, so since you rarely can save there, I usually just put the PS4 to sleep.

  • Codes McGodes

    Levels? Like character levels or skill levels?

  • Alvaro Alcaraz

    At least characters lvls stay, didn’t see skill lvl

  • Dang it! why did they have to revert the regalia!

  • Codes McGodes

    I’ve had a bunch. Three of them were game-breaking. One was a dungeon I couldn’t complete (the one with the bridges that repaired themselves. The bridge with the Iron Giant wouldn’t repair itself because the Iron Giant glitched out of existence). One was a boss I couldn’t beat (Leviathan. I attacked for like a straight half hour. All but one of the platforms were destroyed and she wouldn’t initiate the story bit that puts me into Super Saiyan mode). And one glitch removed literally all monsters from the world. No bosses, no hunts, no enemies of any kind would show up.

    Aside from that, I’ve had Aranea perpetually dropping down and jumping back up into the sky over and over for eternity, the main party got this bizarre grey clay-like texture every time I went indoors, and a friend of mine got a game over in the final battle immediately after being put in Danger mode (pretty sure that one was a glitch. Maybe that’s just a weird mechanic of the fight but he wasn’t allowed to use Phoenix Downs).

  • iAreShay

    I think he meant starting over at level 1, not capping our level. That way we can farm ap by leveling up instead of the other methods. If we are already max level, using this band wont make it more challenging. If you did your reading you would understand this. -.-

  • It isn’t more challenging to farm AP with an easier method like the one you mention (AP from leveling up normally).

    You could just start a new game with the new accessory (assuming it’s available right away) and farm AP normally, while making the game even more challenging at level 1.

  • RavenR

    Exactly. That item is useless unless you plan on starting from scratch. Even then, trying to finish everything in low levels would be more tedious than challenging, having to use potions, etc every 5 seconds. This is just lazy work if you ask me.

    And I love FF.

  • RavenR

    Ng+? Plus what? Nothing has changed. Huge let down.

  • Etherblaze

    So here’s what I’ve seen so far that carries over:
    – AP and Ascension Grid progress
    – Gil
    – Levels and Skill Levels
    – Recipes, Filters etc
    – Chocobo customization and levels (You can use them right from the start)
    – Items (restoratives, ingredients, key items, fishing items, etc)
    – Magic Flasks (enabling you to get even more)
    – Costumes (such as the clothes you get during the story)
    – Weapons (including the Ultima blade. You get a new Engine Blade at the beginning)
    – Royal Arms and Armiger

    As far as I see there’s nothing much worth starting NG+ for other than going through the game again quickly. Maybe just to burn through the main quest and then glitch Aranea into the party so that she comes with you on side quests, but we don’t know if they’ve fixed that awesome glitch. And you’d have to get to Chapter 9 onwards to try.

    I really hope they add more (free) content that makes the game worth continuing to play, since they’re planning to keep updating it.

    I saw someone in the comments mentioning the Nixperience ring, but I didn’t see it. Though it’s possible it’s mixed up in the wealth of items I have.

    Though it wouldn’t make much sense to use or have it be NG+ only since I’m already level 99. If you can start a new game with it that’d be great.

  • 4FFAN

    So…the first patch was 7 GB…and now this one’s 3 GB…and they’re planning more… This game’s gonna eat up all the space on my PS4 disk

  • Ferrick

    that item is useless if you’re already maxed out or too high levelled

  • jame rive

    Quit defending shit, you ignorant fuck.

  • Enrique Mendez

    I think it’s absolutely pointless to have an airship that you have to complete an entire playthrough for, that you can’t even carry over into ng+… it’s a gigantic let down. No special ng+ difficulty or anything? What is the frickin point?!?! At least The Witcher 3 has ng+ and it lets you continue with new content…I was seriously looking forward to this update and they dropped the ball. Wtf…I completed the story, got 89% of trophies, and hit over half the side quests in just under 60 hrs….there better be something else coming to ng+

  • Farm Boy

    well i see gravi has been worked out at least

  • Fucking Savage

    ….What’s the point in NG+ if the enemies don’t get stronger?

  • Oliver Petersen

    Does the new game plus also carries over the accessories items as well? I spent 4 hours trying to get the black hood and I’d hate to loose that on the new game plus.

  • Jacky Lau

    What about the Regalia-F?

  • Alvaro Alcaraz

    Even leveling 99+ doesnt make much sense, since the strongest dude i’ve killed is lvl 120 and I owned him being lvl 75… What really would seal the deal is scaling enemies, and a new difficulty and new game modes, this game by itself has already replay value but they are trolling us

  • Fucking Savage

    Why are you shilling so hard?

  • To experience the story again without losing any progress! πŸ™‚

  • Etherblaze

    That’s gone. Normal Regalia. You keep the upgrades you acquire, such as the headlamps or supercharger, (or magitek generator if you were crazy enough to go for that…like me) as well as the colours.

  • Etherblaze

    Scaling enemies, new dungeons, new weapons, more additions to the ascension grid (making the possibility of different ‘builds’). Party members/playable characters also.

  • Etherblaze

    All items, weapons, costumes, accessories carry over.

  • Ferrick

    and a super boss like any of the ruby, emerald, etc. weapons they have confirmed long back but never appeared in the final build

  • Mason Fairbairn

    Anyone having screen issues? Not formatting to my tv correctly. Black square around edge

  • sonofhadoken

    Sounds like you got your 60$ worth. There is a season pass with more content on the way, as well as free stuff for the holidays. this is just bonus stuff and bug fixes. If you don’t wanna do new game plus, go finish those side quests or something

  • Alvaro Alcaraz

    Have exact same progress as you, let’s hope SquareEnix doesn’t ruin up this cool game… they already did the most difficult part which was creating the whole game…

  • Breathless

    Lol. Costumes. WHAT costumes?? -_-

  • Jacky Lau

    Wow…you bought the magitek generator by Gil or by playing the betting? Haha..

    Basically, there are not much (or close to none) change to the game play itself? Feels like not worth it to play all over again.. 😑

  • waraven

    i just started new game plus how do i access all of my old gear

  • Enrique Mendez

    Exactly. I mean cmon they could at least add higher difficulty or the airship from the beginning. Just add a point to your content, otherwise they will lose fan base.

  • Fucking Savage

    The story isn’t that great anyways imo.

  • Etherblaze

    Gil would’ve actually taken too long. You’d need 36 million Gil to get it. I bet all the way. It wasn’t hard to figure out which monsters were good. The problem was only being able to bet a max of 9999.

    And so far as I could tell, there’s no changes to gameplay itself. It just carries you over as you were from the end of your previous playthrough.

  • Etherblaze

    You should have it as soon as you’re able to open the menu to see your gear and whatnot.

  • stevenm281

    New Game+ in FF and most retro RPGs was always just about being stronger to replay story faster, not adding new stuff to it, so its no biggie for me.

  • waraven

    Nope nothing every one is level one and no weapons or any ascension levels

  • Etherblaze

    When you selected “New Game+” from the start menu, another menu opens up with 3 options:

    New Game+
    Easy
    Normal

    Did you select the first one?

  • waraven

    Ah I’m dumb I didn’t press up for new game plus I chose normal lol

  • Yeah. The opinion seems to be pretty divided, but what else is new for FF, eh? I loved the story in XV. It was told quite a bit different (from a single POV) from what we’re used to, and I appreciated that. Definitely warrants multiple playthroughs

  • Cho Tube

    i’m having that issue as well. Im also experiencing more bugs than before. Characters half body stuck into the ground, background of ascension grid disappearing with no lines connecting the nodes and lag after battles end when you gain exp.

  • Mason Fairbairn

    Okay at least I’m not the only one. Couldn’t find anyone else with the problem. Way too many bugs.

  • Etherblaze

    I think the story is decent but presented poorly. You’re not invested in the characters as much as you should be, and important events happen offscreen. Some scenes have no emotional impact. It also doesn’t help that the delivery is disjointed, and you’d have to watch Kingsglaive at least to “get” some things.

    There are also some things that aren’t addressed at all. Like UMBRA’S POWER.

    Also shitty idiot villain with petty motivation.

  • SuperSaiyanNarutox9

    Guys be careful this new patch makes your PS4 fan work twice as hard. It sounds like a engine!

  • stevenm281

    didnt affect my fan..

  • Exactly. Instead of doing open world just have there be more optional dungeons and towns. And more treasure and sidequests that are fetchquests. Open world is good, but it invites LOTS of problems.

  • Fucking Savage

    Yeah I get that man. The should’ve explained more and kept some of kingsglaive in the actual game too. It’s definitely the shortest FF game I’ve played.

  • GinaMarie DiLeo

    I’m sorry but I am honestly so tired of fans like you that basically don’t let anyone make any sort of complaints about this game. I just don’t understand it. It clearly has both technical and narrative flaws, especially with its pacing towards the end (the rest is up to debate, but these things have been admitted by the creators themselves). Why can’t other fans simply state their concerns without being jumped on? When you make a purchase of a car for example, you don’t immediately think, well I spent X amount of dollars, so it was all worth it in the end, so I won’t complain about the sloppy paint job or rushed leatherwork. It’s important to have improvement in any field, not just accept things for what they are and settle. Criminy…Also, sorry for taking out my frustration on the community on you personally…

  • GinaMarie DiLeo

    What I’m thinking is that they’re so focused on showing that they’re quickly trying to get content out that “fixes” the game and settles the fans that they aren’t so much as focusing on the content they’re releasing…Which is honestly likely the problem with the release of the game itself. Shouldn’t have released until it was done, regardless of how long it would take.

  • Oleridus

    The Kingsglaive and royalty outfits you get after the time skip.

  • waraven

    any one know how to access the holiday items and quest in this update i have the season pass or is the holiday stuff out yet

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    To anyone who is dissapointed with this update and don’t feel the NG+ is worth it well you’re idiots. Also if you are dissapointed with the story, how it was represented, and also the villain then you can’t call yourself fans. The story was absolutely great and the villain was probably the best so far and yes I do think he is better than Sepheroth. Not to mention he is the only one to achieve his goal in the entire series as well. If you are looking for more back story on the characters stop complaining and just go watch the Brotherhood Final Fantasy XV anime on crunchyroll. I feel Ardyn was a great antagonist and brought something new to the FF world with the whole plot twist…I’m your ancestor thing. This game was well though out and Square Enix did a great job so stop hating on the game because all of your opinions are based off of the simplicity of your very little known knowledge. You don’t know enough to judge this game on the story, villian, or the way they are represented. That being said…quit talking like idiots.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    Also stop complaining about the difficulty settings…it’s a Final Fantasy game not some stupid Cod campaign. You play this for the feels not the challenge…besides even on normal this game brings enough to the table in the ways of being challenging.

  • Enrique Mendez

    It’s idiotic to say that. I do agree yes the story was great and everything was awesome and all, but from the GAMER standpoint is where everyone is coming from. Very few people if any are going to keep repeating and repeating the same exact content over and over and those that do will get bored and tired of it before long, guaranteed. They promised over 200 hours of gameplay and there’s people including myself who have platinumed the game and beat everything in under 60. So after waiting 10 years for such a huge promise just to be half assed, yeah you bet your ass we are pissed. So before you go and chastise others, consider the shoe on the other foot first buddy.

  • GinaMarie DiLeo

    I’m so glad I have you to school me, sir. I swear I will never go stupid again!

  • Nikitas Gagas

    Can we complain about the story being butchered and content cut out if the game because that’s exactly what happened. Loved the game but it could have been one of if not the best FF if it wasn’t rushed to meet SE’s fiscal earnings.

  • Shawn Gordon

    For people who went through to get the story and then go through a second time to be a completionists. I usually tackle both at once but I come from the generation of gamers that read the walls of text and explored lore while going through story.

  • Alvaro Alcaraz

    Totally agree with Enrique, this game is BIG and has the potential to be even BIGGER hope the Company realizes that…

  • Mannyack

    god mode lol

  • Mannyack

    wait do levels reset im finishing up here in costelmark and wanted to know if they reset so i can ap grind with lvls vs enemy kills

  • Thomas James

    That’s a damn lie lmfao this game was the easiest thing I’ve ever played you literally can’t die if you have enough curatives I beat the entire game in 40 hours without dying once there was 0 challenge. I beat a damn boss that was level 120 while I was 88 by myself because the others wouldn’t quit dying

  • Jacky Lau

    If I don’t switch over to new game+, can i still get the new DLC items?

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    As a gamer myself all I can say is if you are not happy with the outcome of the game then find something else to play. Especially if you get bored. Personally as a gamer and long time FF fan I would never get bored of the game. Also I have considered other people’s point of view. While it is true it’s not the best and it could be better for the 10 years it took for them to make, the side quests are repetitive and the story is a little short, but if you’re just playing this game as a gamer and not a FF fan then beat it and move on without saying anything. I just don’t see a reason in complaining about it I find it very annoying that people complain about things that are already there that won’t get changed especially if you aren’t a fan and just speaking as a Gamer. It’s just a waste of your time because at the end of the day Square will decide to do what they think is best for the game. Community is important yes, but understand that your opinion still has very little effect. I mean personally as a Gamer I wanted a bit more content too, but know there is more to come. So I’m saving my final opinion until then.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    Ever thought it was not because the game wasn’t challenging enough, but that you were just better than the game itself. It does say the game was for “Fans and First-Timers” so if you aren’t a first time gamer i see your standpoint on it being to easy, but look at it in a newbies perspective.

  • Alvaro Alcaraz

    To anyone that is complaining includung my self I think maybe we are missing something important, This game wasnt by any means being like Skyrim, The Witcher or so.. I mean in terms of content, quests, maps, etc and we all knew that since the pre-release and maybe we are asking too much.. BUT DUUUDE, i know this is a story based game and usually they dont have even half of content FFXV has, but since they already marked this new “era” and mechanics to FF they have yet to much to offer!! We didnt pay 30$ and we are not hateing just for being annoying this was a 10 year building hard work and they did a great job, they just need to cover far more with this great engine. So chill out and hope for the best maybe it is just a matter of time..

  • TektosBasics

    Thermal Suit too.

  • TheBlackPope

    why not play it without using alot of curatives? or you know not grind alot beat arydn without items beat everything without breaking immersion? no need for a harder difficulty if u just play it differently.

  • Jordy Sutanto

    well.. villain win in this series i agree.. but the side quest is too much than the story lol.. and the summon they dont present it all i have played ff vii-xii..
    just hate this go to the open world with WASTELAND.. should add hunter so we can PK/help him haha..

    well.. the difficult can work like tal** series? for maniac and newbie can consider this..

    i just hate it they say 10 year of waiting.. and too much youtube advertising like before the game release.. i think they will release more content than they did on youtube.. i mean i think the odin, alexander, summon coz i plat WoFF (there’re lots of summons in this game) before play this game.. they will release it but they dont advertise that at youtube? but.. too bad too much hope.. too much spoiler and over-react like adamantoise beat in 3 days real life lol haha..

    i just hate the summon thing, and too much spoiler video in youtube before the game release and the word “10 year of waiting”… the story can long enough than this.. like why not let their journey to alti**** got crushed by tsunami? i just hate the story from journey to alti**** till the end of chapter.. and the 80h gameplay thing.. i mean this is not include sidequest i think..

    consider this is the easy plat xD..and i just hate it for the price is a bit too much for the content we get.. i buy it for around 60$ if the price is lower than that maybe i am not complaining and i think their advertising is overrated like NMS? i plat WoFF (world of final fantasy) first and i dont like the ending but i like the overall from WoFF better than FFXV.. so i can judge it xD and so many sorry for my word.. sorry for bad english haha IMO and CMIIW..

  • Peter Boksic

    Just a shame the graphics are ps3 quality. Up close they are fine but in the forests and from a distance its really quite poor. Lets be honest, it has nothing on witcher 3. that said, i quite like the game….

  • Aulix Indragonz

    um. why you compare it to witcher 3?
    it’s obvious witcher 3 is superior you don’t even need to draw comparison

  • Aulix Indragonz

    huhuhuhuuuuuu
    people are not having the same opinion about the game as i do
    they are all idiots!!, if you don’t agree with me you don’t have brain and you’re an idiot
    ~typical 10 year old tumblr user

  • Is WoFF even worth it storywise? Is there a non-typical and epic story there?

  • Rhys Leftblank

    so you haven’t done the 8 post game Mazes under some of the dungeons you go through during the game then? cause the Costlemark one locks off items entirely so go make it through that and keep talking about how easy it is also the maze for one of the other areas i believe the level recommendation is 82? that’s a 3 hour long dungeon even with me being lvl 99 and using some of the most OP stuff that lets me melt Adamantoise down in 5 minutes soooooo yeah you know how about actually playing the whole game first then coming back to it cause i have easily 175+ hours in the game and i’m still having fun with all the side stuff in the game.

  • Rpgglitchy

    Hold on… Petty motivation?
    did you pay ANY attention?
    #Spoilers He is a Usurped king who wants revenge by slaying the one true king to get rid of him.
    He is litteraly the only villain who actually won (in FF).
    Where in the world do you see “Petty Motivation”?
    If I got my ass kicked out of being heir to the throne, Ima kill me some good guys too.

  • Dubob1

    Wtf!!!! Ashame on you Square Enix. Die hard fan here. But I’m starting to give up. Outdated graphics,too many restrictions in the game(not realistic enough,etc.),not a full potential game(you had 10 years!!!), new game+!!!!!Wtf, u telling us gamers we finished the game too fast? Or maybe u take too long making this game,lol. Or maybe quit while we can? Seriously wtf new game+…and no harder mode either, double L’s trophy achievement for u!! Still a good game, that should of been better. Collaborate with other game devs or something, becus y’all quality too ancient, it’s 2016!!2017!!!

  • Rashed Mokdad

    Any updates on the 60 FPS Pro patch? They promised it would be out in December.

  • Kisei717

    I believe the holiday pack (free and season pass) is out the 22nd.

  • Kisei717

    It’s not the holiday pack. This was just an update. The holiday p a ck is out the 22nd

  • Jordy Sutanto

    well IMO yes i like the overall of the game.. no epic but a non-typical..
    i consider u to buy it if u like CHIBI character and FF feel nostalgic.. most of character from previous franchise all there and summons.. and the humor worked on me better than this? haha consider if u like child-mature joke?

    sorry i edit from all to most.. haha a bit of over for that xD

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    You know it’s people like you who have nothing better to do than to sit on social media mocking what everyone post and shit because YOU are the typical 10 year old tunblr user here not me. You don’t even begin to understand what my post said and then you make a comment mocking it. You’re just a sorry sack of shit who needs a better education. I don’t give a damn if anyone agrees with me or not. I didn’t say they were idiots for not having the same opinion as me. I said they were idiots for wasting their time for complaining about one game when they could be playing another.

  • Victor Mickeal

    Graphically yeah. There are a lot of games that look better from a distance, but I like this over The Witcher 3. Maybe its the trash talk, the characters, that big ass Adamatortise….all of that….Personally I couldn’t get into any of the Witcher series as much as I see alot of people can get into it. I’ve tried several times over. It was a nice game, but the hype was not there for me. Its cool though. It got the love that people saw in it, like this game did as well

  • RikuHatsu

    Stop being a little stuck up brat the game is great and I’m super pumped to smash through the story again with all my current stuff

  • Adam Williams

    ^. I like both versions of new game plus.the kind where you can smash through ti again for story, or just thinks you missed first time around to create that perfect save. or let someone less savvy at video games play the NG+ like a child or signiffant other who’d like to see the game but not do the grinding parts.

    I also like the other kind of NG+ that’s more dark souls or witcher style where you continue to level and get even more powerful beyond the first rounds caps and enemies are also stronger. That mode could fit here too but personally for a final fantasy i kind of lean toward the first mode more. The last game that had this kind of new game plus from square was chrono trigger and honestly i played through it several times to get multiple of those 1 in the game items for my entire party, etc.

  • Hero Toxiko

    New game plus literally means play again with the stuff you had. Go play dark souls 2 if you want higher difficulty with ng+.

  • Faisal Merchant

    People forget to realise that the game was still meant to not finish ddvelopment for another 6 months Tabata even said it himself that more time was needed. But they had a contract deadline which had to be met.

    Hence alot of the content and cut scenes etc were removed because otherwise the deadline would not have been met. As a result of this dlc has been introduced to fix some of those issues and add back in some of the content that was taken out.

    So all you “hardcore” gamers that keep complaining they had 10 years to produce a good game but blew it, do realise they had a deadline to meet and the game needed more time to be perfect.

    Seriously now adays everyone just complains without even understanding the full situation.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    My man. Straight to the point. It’s pointless to contradict a game on it’s content. If you wanted it done differently maybe you should have made it and not Square Enix.

  • Dubob1

    I did say still a good game. Have fun with your new game+

  • Tamago1

    60fps patch or riot

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    Well said. A good game no matter the flaws it has always deserves love from someone, but the hate they get just kills my brain because no matter what people say the game won’t change if it is single player like FFXV. What we have is what we have people need to understand that. Those who don’t are idiots. 5 million+ copies sold already Square can’t change the game anymore only add to it. People need to get their head out their asses and realize that.

  • Bobby/Godless

    No such thing as promises but I needs it too.

  • CallMeGod

    Lol, I think you don’t fucking understand that this game is fucking garbage because it is a fucking incomplete pile of shit. You would think that with the game starting back in 2006 as FFV13 and through all the crap that SE went throughout the years. FF15 was the beacon of hope to win back their fan by actually being a FF game that could had surpass FF7, but nope like always they fucking make stupid mistake which result in fucking crap game again. At least in my eyes the FF13 was so much better than FF15 consider I thought it was a good game unlike FF15 it make me a fucking hater. Yeah, so it’s crap doesn’t matter how you try to defend this piece of shit because like they say first impression is important and so they did a great job of saying this game is garbage.

  • Bobby/Godless

    PS3 quality? lmao

  • CallMeGod

    Lol, have fucking with your stupid NG+ that doesn’t add any fucking shit to it and make you play through its garbage story. Fucking ridiculous that you would support this kind of stupidity. ahahahahaah

  • Emorelle

    Grabs the wrist of CallMeGod and says “When the prophecy is fulfilled, All in thrall to darkness shall know peace.”

  • Emorelle

    The best thing you can do Faisal is to just let the anger here pass. There are a lot of people that simply let the hype get to big for their souls. In time it passes just like it did for XIII. I would just simply enjoy and love what you love cause this toxic conversation can drag you down as well. Not worth it.

  • CallMeGod

    Guess you should go back and read what you said and get you head out of SE ass because this game is garbage that’s “WHAT WE HAVE AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. Just like you said the game will get love, but will get hate too because it’s a fucking incomplete pile of shit that have the worst story execution ever for a fucking FF game. Those who don’t understand why this game get the hate it get are fucking idiots and just because it has 5 million+ copies sold or shipped, doesn’t change the fact that those who play it and say it garbage will be garbage because that’s what they deliver a fucking garbage game.

  • Meng Xiong

    now that you mention it, how did he get his power……?

  • CallMeGod

    Talk about being a hypocrite, you start out by insulting people who don’t agree with your opinion by calling them idiots when there is valid reasons why the game get the hate it does. Pretty much every review that I read said the best part about FF15 was it’s open world and gameplay, but when it came to story it was just complete shit. May you are the 10 year old tumblr user who can’t even handle a conversation with people who disagree with you.

    The story was so great that when Luna fucking dies out of no where when we fucking see her for the first time that I fucking starting crying. Then I fucking starting crying when we saw that Ravus has fucking die even though I don’t fucking know how he die. I fucking also care so much about Ravus because all of a sudden a cutscene show him telling Luna must be the one to give Noctis the ring when in Kingsglaive he wanted the ring for himself. It makes so much fucking perfect since at all for this 180 degree change in Ravus. The villians were also fucking interesting and fantastic because we fucking seem in one cutscene and then don’t fucking see them again in the entire game. Lol great fucking story and characters indeed.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    Amen. That is why people these days are idiots and their opinions are worthless. I absolutely hate reading trash comments people post that criticize the game for what it is. It’s too late to change it now all they can do is give additions. This world is full of people who are just stupid idiots that just get even more stupid with every second that pass. I’ve lost all hope in humanity. Games are my life and I love the FF franchise so when I see people hate on it I get triggered. I’ve been sitting here on my PS4 talking to my friends for the past 3 hours about how people are absolute retards that need a better education. The amount of ranting I’ve done tonight is more than I have ever done before. People need to separate opinions from professional criticism. Your comments mean absolutely nothing to anyone but yourself so keep them to yourself.

  • FuckYourFeelings

    Dude you are very hard to understand. Shorten it down and make some concise sentances.

  • CallMeGod

    It doesn’t matter if your a gamer or fan if the game have flaws then we have the right to criticize and complain how bad the game is. If you don’t like it then you need to move along buddy this is the fucking Internet where people can voice their opinion no matter if it’s positive or negative. Also, why do you get so butthurt about people wanting to waste their time on hating on a game. If they want to do so then let them it’s not of your fucking retard business lol.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    I agree honestly. I’m so tilted that I didn’t let it go though now i’m ashamed of myself for doing so. It just pisses me off for people to rant on video games when they have little knowledge on the subject so I can’t help but to say something.

  • Noctis

    this game is full of bullshit….no matter of mutch they try to patch it…..even if a 3.00 version of the game releases this game lost a lot of versus fans

  • CallMeGod

    Lol you must be kidding me right now. If the story of FF15 can’t even stand a toe to a stupid COD game than yeah the game need to be challenging because not all people play the game for it’s story and yeah the game was so easy that I can beat in while just hold the attack and using item every day.

  • CallMeGod

    I’m sorry but if the game doesn’t even provide me a challenge at all and I have to make it challenging myself then why the fuck would I want to even play it. The developer didn’t a poor job of not making the game engaging at all because of poor game design choices they make and that’s all there to it.

  • It’s one thing to have an opinion…. it’s another to have an intravenous line of heroine + crack continuously pumping through your veins. I don’t think there’s a planet where FFXV is better than Witcher 3. Ok, I’m joking here…. and you did say you “liked” it better not that it was actually better. W3 closes in on being the pinnacle of modern console RPGs. I will say this, I really enjoy the fighting in FFXV and, of course, the japanese quirkiness and style of it. It’s just a completely different experience and I can honestly understand some enjoying it more than…. “other” games out there.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    If you wanted something better…then maybe you should have been the developer of the game and not Square. you are not a professional critic so your opinion doesn’t fucking matter. Stop talking shit about the game already. If you don’t fucking like it go play a different fucking game. Square had a Deadline and the game needed longer too fucking bad we got what we got and it was a great game with more to come. Realize that you sorry sack of shit hater.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    Your opinion doesn’t matter. Nobody cares about you. Play a different game if you don’t like it and stop complaining.

  • Emorelle

    I understand… trust me… I truly get it my friend.

  • Rj Smith

    Uhhh are you on crack? Or maybe your eyes don’t work, but I’m on a 60″ HD and my graphics are phenomenal.

  • Rj Smith

    Yet your name is Noctis. Hmmm.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    I don’t need to take shit talk on a game by someone who doesn’t even know proper English. Learn how to type you dumb-fuck and stop saying the game is garbage and just find a new one to play already.

  • Rj Smith

    Yeah right after you bashed it for literally everything.

  • MadeThisToPost

    Why are people complaining over the story? The game itself isn’t it’s own individual storyline… you would need to watch Kingsglaive and Brotherhood (which is on Crunchyroll) in order to get into the story. As for content, you guys should honestly be expecting this. Out of all FF games released I think they spent enough time preparing it for their consumers. Even releasing it on XBOX and PS4 would cause them to add DLC. Everyone makes mistakes and SE isn’t perfect. At least they aren’t false advertising to us like No Man’s Sky.

    They are working hard for us by giving us all these special DLC such as the episodes for Prompto, Ignis and Gladio and it probably won’t stop there. Considering there are many characters to play as in the game such as Aranea and possibly Luna or Ravus. You guys need to honestly stop complaining and just enjoy the game and the future updates that SE will give us.

  • callum cable

    Didn’t kefka achieve his goal too he wanted apsolute power and got it

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    Jesus Christ the amount of bitching I see from so called fans of the series. Some of ya’ll’s complaints have me believing you never played a game prior to FFVII. Seriously, Ardyn is not the only villain to ever succeed in his goals, Kefka anyone? I mean Chapter 14: World of Ruin is named after Part 2 of FFVI. The story if you’re not air-headed and can actually put 2 and 2 together and don’t need every bit of information handed to you is actually amazing. I mean Ardyn as a villain puts any villain in the FF series to shame aside from Kefka. Oh boo hoo, they left some stuff out, some cutscenes, and shit like that. Half of ya’ll would bitch if they had the amount of cutscenes as say FFIX. For those who say the game is too short or that you can platinum it in less than 60 hours, you have a problem. That’s like bitching because you did a speed run of doom or quake 2 too fast. It’s not the developers fault you don’t know how to slow down and enjoy a game. I was at 72 hours when I got my clear cert and i had only done maybe 25 of the 100 hunts, a few of the dungeons, most of the side quests, and was level 55. The game has an amazing combat system that has levels of strategy to allow you to actually plan how you want to take on encounters. To me, you’re all a bunch of whiny entitled privileged little cunt nuggets who can’t appreciate a good thing and are the whole reason why games wind up being as shitty as they do, when they are in fact shitty. I’d like to see any of ya’ll come up with a game even half as decent as this game. Give me 100 pages of story content for a game. Give me a game with as much real estate as this game had with better graphics for less than 50gb. Come on if you can bitch and complain certainly you must have solutions to the problems. and by solutions I don’t mean what is missing, I mean give me the exact nitty gritty details or story or whatever without deux ex machina.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    He’s not the only villain to achieve his goal, or maybe you never played FFVI. Kefka achieved his goal as well by attaining the power of the gods from the statues and creating the world of ruin for which Chapter 14 of this game was named.

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    Well said.

  • Rogerio Kampa Junior

    I remember when ppl used to complain about FFVII because it wasnt a real final fantasy like the firs ones… then they had FFVIII to trash and suddently ffvii was amazing… but wait.. then ffix was garbage because of the art style and ffviii was great again. Hey.. but what about ffx.. all that romamce shit… and ffix was amazing. These losers will aaalways find a reason to complain about the game, but they will start to enjoy as soon as they have a new ff to trash talk.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    He’s not the only villain to win. Kefka won too.

  • jmas

    Just a heads up, the Ultima blade is retained, you get a second engine blade. Which.. seems pointless, more questing, I suppose. All of the colors you collected for the Regalia are also retained.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    There are certain quests that can only be done during certain chapters in the story

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    you could just put yourself in the middle and bring the back to the middle

  • Breathless

    I know that, it’s not my point. My point is that the game has no “costumes” to talk about in the first place – dunno about anyone else, but one basic, one casual, and one royal you get if you get to a certain point in the story… that just doesn’t cut it. (Oh and the suit you may or may not miss after the power plant thing.) Especially when they have different stats on them, so you won’t really be changing even those that much.
    But hey, yay for the holiday pack’s sombrero! And the kiddie clothes, which won’t even be available til the January carneval thing.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    you can farm AP easy just fighting mobs by using warp-striking, link-striking, blind-striking, elemancy, or techniques for kills. go in use gravisphere, drop a huge spell on them. boom beau coups AP.

  • alef321

    what a piece of shit ng+ lmao

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    NG+ is not a basic modern game mechanic. Most modern games don’t incorporate a NG+ and even those that do don’t always necessarily mean stronger enemies. And as others have said RPG’s from the past were never really about more difficult subsequent playthroughs on NG+. If you want more difficult you can find plenty of ways to make the game more difficult. You can speed run through the story, get the nixband, beat the game, start over, equip it, then play through and see how well you can do by force-capping your level.

  • alef321

    the versus XV rumors might become reality at some point, they do need to recover the money re-using assets and engine.

  • Breathless

    I wouldn’t mind the story, if it was an optional side-thing – maybe a DLC. A free one. It’s not necessarily the story itself that’s garbage, but the way it’s told. Or are we to ignore the immense plot holes and all the pointless, unjustified parts of it? It’s a Final Fantasy game, its story and characters should be The Thing to love, even if all else fails. With XV, it’s like a lot of other things don’t fail and are easy to love (but definitely not everything), but what makes up the main story quests……. yeah.

    And tbh all the additional “universe” materials are the exact things that make all this questionable. They made a movie, they made a 5-episode anime, they made a spin-off game, they made another spin-off game, they made one of the minigames for mobiles – not to even mention the many big-name collaborations and the really immense hype they built up. Consider all the time and money and work put into those, while on the other hand the main game itself had all the deadline troubles, editing issues, whatnots. Whether the game itself could have been better if they just did that instead of all the additional material – nobody can really tell, but the connection can’t be denied either.
    As it is, the game itself underwent a lot of changes and re-edits and cuts because of the transition from Versus XIII to XV. The additional material created for XV only added to that burden imo, when it really didn’t need additional complications like those.
    As it is, the DLCs are needed exactly because the main game itself was rushed and then released unfinished – it’s a good thing they’re trying to make up for it, but the fact that they have so many bits to make up for is the real trigger here.

  • Rpgglitchy

    Ah Yes, Forgive me good sir.
    I guess I was a little triggered xD

  • LostintheVoid Gaming

    WELL FUCKING SAID! Oh and I forgot about Kefka lol. Mistake on my part. Ardyn is 2nd lol.

  • Tara-Lynn Sharrock

    Rofl you’re so angry. It must suck to be like that. Sorry, dude. Hopefully you’ll get better, soon.

    I personally love FFXV. I’m a die-hard FF-Franchise fan. They lost me with XII and XIII and I didn’t play the online games, but I absolutely love FFXV/15. It’s a great game that is beautifully animated and the story is awesome. I feel a connection to the characters that I haven’t felt since VIII (which is my fave) back in 1999. Yes there are issues but they’re negligible (that means they don’t matter too much in the bigger picture). The important thing is that SE has announced fixes and add-ons that will enrich (make better) the game. They’re doing right by their fans, in my opinion

    Good on you, Square. Don’t let haters get you down. πŸ™‚

  • Jesus Christ

    You called Me?

  • Michael Kendrick

    My issue with your commentary is that you said, “like always they fucking make stupid mistake which result in fucking crap game AGAIN [emphasis mine].”
    What do you mean again? Most of the time their games are anywhere from pretty good to amazing. They’re never perfect–FFVII has the Honeybee Inn scene, FFVIII has disc 4, FFIX…might actually be perfect, FFX has that nails-on-chalkboard laugh, FFXII had villains who have zero motivation for doing what they do and a bunch of loose ends in the plot, FFXIII has too much deus ex machina and too much “final Hallway XIII,” Lightning Returns had the worst plot ever in the history of the franchise…but these games are still not, “fucking crap.” All of these games still have redeeming qualities to them (yes, even Lightning Returns–the battle system in that game is pretty good and Battle on the Big Bridge gets played on a kazoo, for starters). VIII had some amazing music (so did XIII-1) and a great story at least up to the clash of the Gardens, VII had the most iconic villain of all time and he actually had a reason for being a villain, VI had one of the best settings ever and a very likable cast, etc… Each game has a lot of positive things going for it, I don’t see where you get off calling all of them crap.

    That being said, I’m really disappointed with FFXV so far. It has been the third biggest let-down of 2016 for me. I’m only at the beginning of chapter 13 but I have little hope left for a decent plot, and when you have to use a loading screen blurb to explain what happened in the cut-scene you just saw you know the writing was half-assed at best. So many times in this game I have said, “WTF,” because what they’re doing makes zero sense and they don’t bother to clue the player in to what is going on. And it’s not a case of, “I should pay more attention.” I pay all the attention. Xenogears is my favorite game of all time, so I know how to pay attention when a game says, “here’s a little nugget but we’re going to rely on your ability to synthetically assemble the knowledge of what is happening from everything you’ve seen previously.” Pretending that FFXV does that is an insult to actual intelligence. This game is like watching the anime Gilgamesh–nothing fucking happens, and then suddenly everything happens, but off-screen because they’re too lazy (or crunched for development time as the case may be) to actually show any of it. And you know what? It’s not my problem that they had a deadline and couldn’t meet the deadline. If you have to cut the majority of the story out of a story just to get it out the door on time, your team is at fault for that, I don’t care if you are going to patch it a billion times after release day to eventually put everything back in there. Maybe I don’t have that kind of hard drive space on my PS4? What about someone who wants to play this game a decade or two from now when the PSN servers either no longer run or have stopper serving such outdated content? All they’re going to have is a shitty unfinished relic of a disc. It’s not professional and it’s not okay. Xenogears was still coherent even though they cut out Maria and Emmy’s omnigears and the dungeons associated with them and had to streamline the plot-line events of the second disc. They made sure they got the most important content in the game at least mentioned instead of giving everyone the barest skeleton ever with a couple of really high production-value scenes.

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  • Michael Kendrick

    Is nobody going to say Caius Ballad in response to “Ardyn was the only villain who accomplished his goal”?

  • Noctis

    And you are who? lol

  • Noctis

    I`m versus Noctis

  • Noctis

    Your opinion doesn`t matter none cares about you..

  • Noctis

    lol you dude need to ask yourself if what you say is true at all …try to ask yourself if you are even important. Your a duche dude

  • Noctis

    I agree this game is garbage

  • sonofhadoken

    Hah, no need to apologize, I did not mean to condecend by any means. it’s just that 60 hours is a lot of gameplay (by today’s miserable standards) and it seems to me like Square is still working on delivering content. (Free and paid) I agree wholeheartedly though, criticism and feedback is an essential part of the gaming industry. I pledge no allegiance to any developer, I dont consider myself a “fanboy”, and I do take things seriously when it means shelling out my hard earned cash. I haven’t finished the game yet – I’m on chapter 3, so 60 hours seems like a pretty good amount of time considering how precious little gaming I allot myself now that I’m supposed to be an “adult”, that’s mainly what i meant by that. Sorry for the confusion, cheers! πŸ™‚

  • Boston John

    To be fair most of that movie and spin off stuff and marketing of such is handled by Square Enix , they built that roadmap while these devs (and us) kinda had to come along for the ride.

    Square Enix has a crazy standard in terms of what they deem a “success” and all of the above is to try and build hype for this game while also of course cashing in off the brand tbh.

  • Noctis

    I think your the biggest idiot here, who cares about you?

  • aj

    lol outdated graphics….

  • Boston John

    Square Enix didnt have confidence in the fans and has a high threshold to begin with in terms of what they consider a success, the very first thing you see in this game is “a FF game that old and new players can enjoy” or something like that and that right there tells you all you need to know in terms of them trying to have the same mindset as every other publisher now a days = Expand user base at all costs.. times have changed, gone are the days of building games for fans, its now about building games for everyone else at the expense of fans. To be fair i enjoyed this game for what it is etc.

  • Boston John

    It was NOT 10 years for gods sake, it was 3 – 4 years in terms of development.. Untouched Concept and ideas does NOT count. its when they actually start executing them = 4 years ago from what i gather.

  • GinaMarie DiLeo

    Ha! Well, I have to suggest finishing the game before throwing your lot in with these wolves! But I see your perspective from the amount of gameplay view, even if I don’t think it’s substantive gameplay. Enjoy the rest of your game!

  • Boston John

    Umm no FACTS show development started 4 years ago.. people keep saying 10 years meanwhile the only thing that existed 10 years ago at best is maybe a concept or ideas at BEST

  • Breathless

    Funny about this everyone else / new people ↔ fans phenomenon… it’s the exact the same thing a lot of us feel has been surfacing in XIV as well. The effects of it are mixed at best, with very differing views, and new people indeed coming in but most of them leaving quite soon too – while the veterans are definitely more in the quitting part. But they’re going ahead with it anyway, opening their arms to everyone new, while more often than not ignoring those who have stuck around for years. (Which, specifically in the case of that game, makes it all the more interesting, you’d think they want to retain the long-term permanent income from the subs, but apparently ???)

  • Boston John

    Art style is quite amazing and like always they are the premier devs in terms of structures,, Calling the graphics poor is imo unjust.. could it use more detail sure but it looks great..

  • Breathless

    I’m not saying it was the devs of this game themselves, but there should be a certain level of communication between the departments. With how unbalanced things are around XV, to me it feels like all the communication that happened was one-way orders from way up there: do this thing, do that other one, scrap this and do something else instead, oh and here’s yet another project – MAKE IT WORK! And unsurprisingly – cue the chaos.

  • Boston John

    speaking of subs I lost my house πŸ™ i have been sick over it and as much as i want to come back i feel like i lost quite a bit and had a small fc as well but been sick for a little while and yeah got that property bulldozer email when i was in the hospital and have been kinda sad over it since..I still have alot of HS i didnt do and yeah going from being current to feeling like i would be playing catch up kinda sucks

  • While you’re mostly right, you have to admit there are some issues – the game’s not perfect. No FF ever has been perfect (though the first Tactics is pretty much untouchable in my opinion), even FF7 had issues.

    FF15 is so much fun, I do love it but it shares a problem with another highly anticipated title, Phantom Pain. When you cut content out of your game, and pad content out with uninteresting endgame dungeons, endless hunts and glaring pacing issues, your game appears rushed and unfinished.

    It’s nice that they’re taking steps to correct this with free DLC, but the fact that they’re doing that means THEY recognise it’s an issue – and it’s not just whiny babies taking a critical look at that; the devs themselves want to improve.

  • Boston John

    I agree but sometimes the only communication is = need more time/resource and of course yes or no.

  • sonofhadoken

    LOL, I’ve had a friend telling me “just wait til chapter 13” (no spoilers please!) But apparently that’s where it took a turn for the worse for her, I’m not sure I even really want to know.

  • Rpgglitchy

    I agree with you, man. This is an underrated comment.

  • Dr.Bagman

    Why do people rave so much about VII? It’s not half as good as IV or VI. It was a fucking awesome game, don’t get me wrong, but it isn’t the best. Kefka > Sephiroth.

  • Jesus Christ

    Wow, I totally missed the fun in this thread.

    Anyone wanna sum up any juicy fights in this page for me? Thanks. LOL

  • zylir

    Personally, I really liked FF15 besides a few small issues here and there gameplay wise like friendly fire and your car getting destroyed when not landing correctly lol. Blocking seems to be odd sometimes. However, story wise, It’s not terrible per say, just really only focuses on the main characters and really short when it comes to story related things. It just felt really rushed and left out a ton of details or details just in notes and potential cutscenes. I personally would’ve liked some time with luna as well as having her brother as a party member and maybe more aranae grouping up. They could’ve really opened up this game and seen the world a bit more rather than just one area. While it was a good size open world, It didn’t have a whole lot of variety but I found it fun. However I’d like to explore tenebrae and other cities and got off the train a bit more to explore those areas. It just made the world you are saving feel so small. Also, I’d love to explore in the world of ruin. I really wanted to fight a demon wall with my team but nope, just neglected stuff. Didn’t check up on anyone or anything just was told all the info by one guy. Tons of fun to be had and I love the dungeons. The puzzle dungeon is probably one of my favorite puzzle dungeons in a game. Overall, probably one of my more favorite FF games if I take it at it’s core aspect, to tell the story of these 4 guys and not the world they are in. Still would’ve liked some exploring outside of the main area that weren’t just dungeon to dungeon.

  • Breathless

    Ew. πŸ™ Sorry to hear that~ yeah, the demolotion is questionable at best, but so is the entire housing system… Been there every time wards opened up, I still don’t have a house – and I’ve just given up and concluded that I never will either. Meh.
    Catching up can work kinda quick tho???

  • Jesus Christ

    Hmmm had FFXIII had such treatment poor XV is having now, maybe it wouldn’t have had such bad ratings ….yeah you lucky XV patch treatments

  • mightyfox

    Agreed. I wonder if they really are Final Fantasy fans!

  • Artemis Polara

    Holy shit, I’m busy for the past 6 hours and I see this comment section has become a hellish wasteland… Sigh…
    (Kind of a big patch for what I’d think would be, at most, 100 megabytes)

  • mightyfox

    And I think you are the biggest whiny little brat here, who cares about you too, faggot?

  • Noctis

    Tabata comes changes the original concept…..gives us this sacrifice game.

    And you all except I`m ok with this bullshit?

    Even my brother could come up with better ideas!!!

  • mightyfox

    “If you don’t like it then you need to move along buddy”
    LMAO! Don’t like the game? Fine. Move along, idiot.

  • Noctis

    Why would I spend again time on a New game + to get sacrificed again muhahahaha

  • Shadow Lord

    They made it clear this will be the last Final Fantasy game if it doesn’t do well. Haters keep trying to drag down the game because they didn’t like the ending or the fact it isn’t verses but it isn’t doing you any favors. They announced all this years ago and yet only now that random people are here to listen to you whine you complain.

    If you wanted versus then you should have raised your voice years ago when they could have done something about it. If they thought there was a large enough audience for Versus they would have jumped at the chance. Instead they felt they needed to send themselves near bankrupt to create this masterpiece of a game. Why is that I wonder?

    Perhaps it has something to do with people like yourselves bitching endlessly about FF 13 -13-2 and Lightning returns. Perhaps they wanted to improve upon that failure to engage you with the story even though it was decent. No matter how hard they tried to engage you the bitching never ended. What you don’t see is the retardation in your own complaints. The main complaint about Final fantasy 13 etc is that it had an uneventful battle system?

    Compared to what? This isn’t fucking COD. Final Fantasy has always been either turn based, real time turn based or similar with a mix of action. When you think about it FF 13 actually was innovative in terms of its battle system. As for quick time events how the hell do you make a battle epic when you’re at the helm?

    The best way to paint an epic scene is to make it like a movie. To keep you engaged they add quick time events. It really isn’t that bad. The story for 13 wasn’t awful either. As far as past entries are concerned the only one that evoked emotion in me was FFX. FF 13 rekindled the emotional storytelling that made Final Fantasy so immersive in the past.

    Now we have 15 which again kept the rich story telling tradition of Final Fantasy alive. You’re meant to feel sad for Nocts loss. The fact you’re angry only serves to prove they did their job well. Show some respect for the immense effort they put in and continue to support them. Perhaps with all your support and CONSTRUCTIVE critique they may start working on a Versus game. Without that support they certainly will not.

  • Noctis

    doesn`t explain how all of them died like miserable sacrifice puppets.

    Oh and I know they know we wanted Versus. Everyone was waiting for that. But no we got this beta demo…

  • Noctis

    You’re meant to feel sad for Nocts loss. The fact you’re angry only serves to prove they did
    their job well.

    No sorry but pulling a dead chain reaction like Type 0 did. doesn`t let me feel sad. No I feel annoyed how waek and dump he was he is whinny sissy in this game!

    And how easy he was manipulated from the ring, Bahamut. And he was weak as fuck compared to versus. When he was more cold!

  • Shadow Lord

    Correction they knew YOU (as in some fans) wanted versus. They obviously didn’t believe there was a large enough audience for Versus or they would have made a Versus game. Moving on the claim they “died like miserable sacrifice puppets” is a bit ridiculous. The story was built up to that point. In retrospect this ending was always going to happen.

    This isn’t Mass Effect where they created a narrative in which anything is possible. All throughout Mass Effect you worked your ass off and made friendships for the sole purpose of working together to destroy the Reapers. Then that whole narrative was screwed over for a cheap sacrifice that made everything you had done up to that point meaningless.

    FF15 on the other hand created a narrative that made that ultimate conclusion plausible. Throughout they doubled down on the rich experience between friends. It’s almost like you’re watching your happy times flash before your eyes as you die. That is exactly what happened to him.

    They built to this point so I don’t see how it is a “cheap death”. I think it is more a case of you got emotionally attached as intended and are saddened by his loss. On a different note this isn’t the only possible ending. If you’re truly angered by his loss I can tell you now here is not the place to air that grievance.

    If you want a chance to see him survive you need to tell THEM that. There is plenty of DLC coming. If your voice is loud enough with the backing of enough fans he may well yet live. Also with a large enough backing perhaps they will work on that Versus game fans want. This game does not exclude the chance they may still create a Versus game with your support. Consider this extra game a bonus.

  • Phillip

    …….. Dude :/ I love this game!! The only thing I don’t love is the wonky camera and the mandatory victory animations after each battle. Story is fine. Content is plentiful. If you want a better game, make it yourself. Cool? Good talk.

  • Martian Wong

    Quick time event to keep us engaged? I disagree with you because there are many other ways to keep you engaged while battling out with bosses. The story is there but they need to develop more. Many things got left out.

  • Ryuke

    Good to see the patch out nice and quickly, hopefully support will continue for ironing out various issues or adding support for different things.

    Not good to see the same couple of self obsessed, entitled, immature trolls spamming this comments section with their “THIS GAME IS TRASH” or “WE WANT VERSUS” posts. Opinions are fine, constructive criticism is fine and welcomed, but seeing them just spam up every damn article just turns those opinions into irrelevant whining. They must have such fulfilling lives going through every day being so bitter about everything. If this game has ruined the franchise for them to the point of no longer supporting it then good riddance.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    Did i not state my claim clear enough? I said kefka was greater than all did i not?

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    Never claimed the game to be perfect. Merely great. But also even if they intentionally vut material to release the game on time, at least they are giving us those free updates instead of charging us for said content. And in regards to paid content lets make some comparisons. Dark souls 3 season pass = 30$ : 2 dlc’s. Fallout 4 season pass = 40$ : 3 doc’s. And many others like this. FFXV season pass = 25$ : 4 dlc’s and multiple free updates.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    Yes i did, could you ask your dad to smite some sense into these little kids.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    Then why are you here?

  • Ryuke

    Doesn’t explain why you have to spoil the end of the game in every one of your comments. Can you not use spoiler tags like everyone else?

  • Etherblaze

    Revenge IS petty motivation. He’s the same as “I am an ancient evil sealed 2000 years ago, now I’m back for revenge on the descendants of those who sealed me! Raarr!” I guess it works if you want a cliched boring villain. It’s usually the “go-to” thing for RPGs, for some reason. Maybe because it doesn’t require much thought.

    Not to mention he’s an idiot. Yeah, let the new king get as strong as you are and then try to kill him at the height of his power. He’s not very smart. There are numerous times where he tried to get Noctis killed, which would put a dent in his ‘plan’, but then “helped” him. It’s one of the things about this story. Inconsistent characters. Gladio is one too.

    And no, he didn’t actually “win”. I would say he came close to winning, but Noctis reappeared in the last moments and won. Noctis sacrificed himself and the Lucian line, but that’s not a loss in the greater scheme of things (the world is brought back from the brink of actual destruction, humankind survived, and will rebuild).

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    Kefka was mother fucking boss. The epitome of evil. Tipped the world asunder tore a chunk right out with the power of the gods and turned it into his own perfsonal floating castle filled with monsters. All but drained the power of the espers. I can still hear that maniacal laughter. He is the Joker of final fantasy.

  • Etherblaze

    Well you don’t get new items in this patch. So far this only adds NG+, from what I can see.

  • Noctis

    Hey I bought the UCE edition of this game.

    But after finishing I feel this way. None of your posts will change that!

  • Noctis

    And you?

  • Noctis

    A fantasy based on misleading trailers – FINAL FANTASY XV 2013 – 2016

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av_B4Ixci38&t=231s

    This!

  • Dr.Bagman

    I was not disagreeing with you, I was merely remarking upon people in general’s obsessive fixation on VII.

  • Odin

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Best comment ever!

  • Rpgglitchy

    I’d like to know why you think Gladio is inconsistent?

    And Ardyn DID win. His plan was to end the Lucis line. Did he achieve his goal? Yes, so he won.
    The reason he helped Noct was because He wanted him to sacrifice the ancient kings into the Ring of the Lucii to try and stop Ardyn.
    Why Ardyn did not let Noctis die in between is because that way, his revenge would not have been satisfied. He wanted the complete Lucis line to fade with the one true king.

  • Noctis

    hahaha

  • Noctis

    sorry. I don`t want to spoil…..but at this point you should except spoilers everywhere

  • Odin

    Do you have a twitter? LOL

  • Noctis

    yes why?

  • Odin

    Is it a parody account for FFXV, if not dw about it lol

  • Noctis

    ? what…..Its not parody lol

  • Noctis

    Its @LucaX85

    Versus Fans come follow me eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

  • Hero Toxiko

    you literally never played any other ff game, Spoiler alert: the party is actually a sacrifice to the endgame boss who is god, whom they fight, whether or not they already know is revealed by the story..

  • King Zeus

    Poor boy.

  • Hero Toxiko

    pretty damn sure you’ve never played a jrpg, most involve sacrifice.

  • Noctis

    I did…..no game had a shitty story like that

  • Hero Toxiko

    are you sure you don’t mean FFXIII the one people actually said that about? i don’t remember very many final fantasy blogs in 1997.

  • Hero Toxiko

    he won for like 10 minutes, ardyn won permanently.

  • Boston John

    Yeah man but all that work i put into the house and airship , kinda discouraging but yeah still worth playing again just kinda down about the housing stuff ( i mean i grinded my arse off and it was a reminder of how much work i did put in, now i guess i will get gil back etc but yeah)

  • Wrong. This trend of releasing a game unfinished is the latest fad, and it’s really starting to show. No Man’s Sky, Phantom Pain, now Final Fantasy. We’ve got 2 definite AAA titles, and 1 indie cum AAA title.

    This is not a trend we should be accepting, because it will only continue, if it doesn’t do so anyway. The complaints are shitty, but I’m GLAD they’re giving SE a tough time – I love their games, but c’mon. Credit where it’s due, so too criticism.

  • Etherblaze

    Gladio stops Noctis WHILE RUNNING FROM TITAN, to lecture him about his duty. He’s the bodyguard, he’s from a line of bodyguards to the royal line. He’ll focus for Noctis when he can’t focus, blah blah blah. One or two chapters later? “I have to go do this unexplained thing while you guys (AND THE PRINCE I’M SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING) are heading into Imperial territory (Vesperpool). See ya.” Then he ditches the party to do his unexplained thing.

    Yep. Totally consistent and in line to his heartfelt lecture about his duty as the king’s bodyguard.

    “His plan was to end the Lucis line”
    Kill Noctis at any point. There. Lucis line is dead. Noctis has no children. Ardyn survives to do what he wants with the world.

    Hell, he was alive when Regis was young. Kill him. Or kill any of the previous Lucian kings that came before. Ardyn is 2000 years old. And there’s no excuse like “I gathered my power” to stop him from trying earlier.

    “The reason he helped Noct–”
    He also tried to kill Noctis numerous times, up to and including the end where he summoned Ifrit, and then tried personally. What would’ve happened if Noctis died? Noctis would not have been able to sacrifice himself or use the Ring of Lucii if Ifrit or Ardyn killed him. Whoops! Shitty revenge plan failure.

    “His revenge would not have been satisfied”
    Hence idiot villain. The one that’s the easiest to write: ancient evil who’s so consumed by revenge that he makes shitty decisions.

    He’s not outright ruthless (which would’ve been a big improvement, actually, instead of having him be “playful”), and all the attempts to make him seem “Count of Monte Cristo” tier fall flat when you realize his entire plan was to get Noctis to the height of his power and then take him on, LOSE, and then get Noctis to follow him into the Beyond to kill him there.

    What was the point of fighting if his plan was to die? What was the point of summoning Ifrit to fight? What was the point of toying with Noctis through the dangerous Imperial fort during Chapter 13? What was the point of sicing Ravus on him if he wanted Noctis to survive?

    There was no point.

    How did he know that after the Ravus fight, Noctis would have run for the crystal instead of choosing to fight alongside his 3 friends who are supposed to be akin to brothers at this point? Because it was Noctis’ duty? Did he know that Noctis would choose duty over brotherhood?

    He didn’t.

    Also the final battle against him was crap. The first phase was alright, but the 2nd and 3rd phases turned it into cinematic fluff. Ifrit was a better boss.

  • Hero Toxiko

    actually kefka loses and his plan falls apart, ardyn won completely and set it up so his victory would be complete.

    even killed a huge chunk of the population permanently.

  • Hero Toxiko

    just play tales if you want to, bersaria is a month away.

  • Hero Toxiko

    you have just described the easy difficulty, consider yourself exposed.

  • Hero Toxiko

    you played easy mode.

  • Hero Toxiko

    air is supposed to circulate near the system, do not put it in an enclosed space.

  • Hero Toxiko

    the same point of new game, PLAYING TO COMPLETION.

  • Pierrot.

    You do realize that’s pre-rendered CG? They even mentioned it when it was released.

  • Pierrot.

    If you did then tell me how you trigger all of Prompto and Ignis sidequest?

  • Hero Toxiko

    villain turned evil because he saved humanity and was betrayed by his own blood[implied by ardyn name drop] his motivation was revenge. in this case revenge meant wiping out the bloodline and ending the cycle of starscourge bs.

    no king, no oracle, no starscourge, no celestials, no daemons.

  • Pierrot.

    Well too bad because you’re the noisy minority that’s desperately trying to drag the game down.

  • Hero Toxiko

    the celestial[shiva] gave it to him.

  • Rpgglitchy

    Yeah sorry but TL;DR. I can just tell you half assed the story.
    And don’t want to discuss in a reasonable matter.

    Have fun, though!

  • Pierrot.

    So salty hahaha

  • Fucking Savage

    Ive already 100% the game in one playthrough. So theres not really a reason to go back for people like me

  • Pierrot.

    Lmao this is so true.

  • Ardyn

    Guys, I’m missing Prime Garula Ribs despite buying the Vol.2 recipe book and Ignis’ cooking being at level 10. DId anyone else encounter this problem and if there is any way to fix this. Otherwise, I’m hoping they fix it in the patch.

  • Hero Toxiko

    he eliminated the starscourge crystal and oracle powers in one fell swoop and eliminated a chunk of the population that took a few centuries to build.

  • Pierrot.

    It’s not a recent trend smartass. Does nobody ever remember the “International” versions of FF games?

  • Hero Toxiko

    gladio is a buff idiot, it is his defining character trait.

  • Pierrot.

    You think your insignificant opinion matters?

  • Pierrot.

    “even if a 3.00 version of the game releases this game lost a lot of versus fans”

    Good joke. FF15 is the fastest selling FF in the franchise. Bitch all you want but the game is successful and many are enjoying it.

  • Hero Toxiko

    vageta

  • Pierrot.

    Lets not forget they were also working on the Luminous Engine which was terrible before Tabata became the director.

  • Etherblaze

    “TL;DR”
    So, no counterarguments? Okay.

  • Etherblaze

    He’s a crappy character, honestly. You can be a buff idiot and be consistent.

  • Pierrot.

    “outdated graphics”

    Rofl

  • Etherblaze

    Now see, if the game actually cared to explain the Starscourge outside those reports in the imperial fort, I might have actually cared.

    But it doesn’t. Because the game, as a whole, presented its story in a disjointed, impact-less, hole-filled manner.

  • Pierrot.

    There are many other costumes mate like the thermal suit. You probably never found them

  • Jesus Christ

    Sure thing, let me process your Prayer Request. You in line behind 500K dying people last wishes, 2 billion poor kids, and 1 Donald Trump.

    Please be excited.

  • Noctis

    Then we saw something different. because i saw also gameply

  • Jesus Christ

    LOL I love how Noctis user is standing his ground. He’s not letting XV fans silence his hate for the game. LOL XD Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaang, mmkay now mmmmkay!

    I’ll sit this one out and just read. *Reminiscing those early days when I was #negativenancy” ^_^

  • Rpgglitchy

    Well, would you consider my counterarguments to work with your story? Because I don’t wanna create counter arguments just to have them beaten to the ground because you stay glued to your point of view.

    Okay, you were right that Gladio was setting noctis straight and telling him he will protect him. But they were cut off from the group at that particular point in the story. At the point where Gladio left, Prompto and Ignis were there to protect noct too.
    They have lives of their own. + It is just a setup for Gladio’s own chapter.

    And your next couple of “Counter arguments” were what set off my TL;DR. Because you didn’t read mine either and its also the reason why I said I think you half assed the story.
    Ardyn wants to end THE COMPLETE LUCIS LINE. including the previous kings. These kings need to come together in the Ring of the Lucii to complete the ring and forge the one true king.
    If that one true king is destroyed, so is every one in the Lucis line.
    THAT’S Ardyn’s goal.

    So killing regis or plainly letting noct get killed won’t work with his plans.

    I really don’t think his plan is idiotic. But to have a little discussion on your chapter 13 part. Didn’t you even consider he was testing noctis’ strength without his weapons? See if he has what it takes to become the one true king and absorb all the kings into the ring to try and beat Ardyn?

    Maybe it’s just me, but the fact that he was toying with noctis the whole time makes him a great villain.

    To your last argument about the battle. Okay, I can agree to that. Ifrit’s battle was a bit more exciting. Though I wouldn’t call the battle against Ardyn crap. It was really cool to see him use the same techniques as Noctis.

  • Releasing unfinished games and then patching in more “free” content later isn’t a new thing?

    Or are you taking issue with me talking to SE doing it?

    To be clear, I’m talking about ALL games, not FF games specifically.

  • Etherblaze

    See, I don’t get that with Gladio leaving the party. Gladio is THE bodyguard. Prompto is the childhood friend and Ignis is the advisor. He shouldn’t have just ditched the party like that, especially when they’re going to do something dangerous + he’s the prince’s sworn guard. It makes his previous lecture fall flat. It ends up being inconsistent. Also I thought the Gladio Episode was about what he does during ten-year timeskip? Either way; I’ve never actually paid for DLC for any game so I’ll probably skip out on it.

    Alright, so he wants to end the complete line. And to do so will mean ending himself along with the rest of the Lucian line. But he still puts Noctis in danger numerous times. And storywise, still doesn’t know whether Noctis will make the decisions he wants Noctis to make (such as leaving his friends battling armies of daemons and gunning for the crystal). Or whether Noctis will survive Ifrit, or even if Noctis will survive the final battle. It’s still, to me, a crappy plan.

    Also I assumed making Noctis weaponless and powerless was probably because he wanted Noctis to finally wear and use the ring. The problem of considering whether Noctis was strong without his weapons fall flat because Noctis without his weapons is not what Ardyn wants. He wants Noctis at full power, bearing the power of the True King. And again, putting Noctis in mortal danger without his weapons to test him had a high chance of his plan failing.

    His affable/toying nature to me, made it seem as if he was hiding some clever gambit plan, which he wasn’t really. I thought he was kind of impact-less, like a lot of story moments. I didn’t HATE him like how the game wanted me to hate him. I was kind of neutral to him most of the time. A lot of the blame falls on the rushed nature of the final chapters, and possibly not getting to know Luna (I didn’t care what happened to her because I didn’t actually know her) and Regis as much as I should have.

    I still think he’s a crappy villain, but maybe the blame isn’t on HIM, it’s on the way presents him. A lot of information was left out or relegated to notes you can miss (like the Starscourge). I just really think the story could have been presented WAY better.

    I enjoyed the game a lot (120+ hours, probably will spend more if they release a [free] Aranea DLC lol). But the way they presented the story in the game, as well as the characters, fell short. I think what irked me the most and why I’m so irritated about it was that… It could have been better! I might have actually hated Ardyn (a good villain is a villain you love to hate). It just needed a little bit more work.

  • Invictus

    Spot on brother. Can’t wait to play new game plus on the weekend!

  • Rpgglitchy

    Lol, Free Aranea DLC. I’d pay for that xD.
    I do get your points though. But the plot where the bad guy relies on the strength of the protagonist to survive his challenges, lives in many more games. So Personally, I don’t mind this. Maybe that’s why I love him menacing Noctis around, I dunno πŸ˜€

    And indeed. A good villain is one you love to hate. Like Sylar, from heroes.
    Good talk, Thanks for keeping me busy during work hours :p

  • Invictus

    I understand the fact that SE did come up with free dlcs to patch up some story points. But take note, we consumers, did our best to earn every dollar to spend on their game. We are at least entitled to have a full game first hand or at least what was promised to us via trailers/conventions and the likes.

    The mere fact people complaining (negatively,constructively,positively) means to say that the game was not worth its price. But it will be as soon as DLCs come in. I hope.

  • Etherblaze

    Haha, sorry for coming off as trollish and shitty. I usually do that without thinking. Have a good day.

  • Cody

    So there is zero reason to start a New Game + then? No new items, no difficulty increase, no new quests, no nothing? Man, for a game that at most has as much content as a single disc of the PS1 era games that spanned four (or just a small chunk of X and XII), I was really hoping for more stuff to do. Hopefully the success of this game will secure more resources so Final Fantasy XVI can return to the grand flair the older games had.

    I want to travel the world, not a countryside. I want access to the many more spells available in previous games that were left out. I want a much longer story, more than 4 pieces of body armor, actual limit breaks that are exhilarating to pull off, most cities should be the size of Altissia, enemies should not be recycled so much that even post-game dungeon bosses are stronger variants of creatures you’ve already fought instead of being unique, half the cutscenes in the game should not be fragments taken from a movie, and the main villain needs to be fleshed out and not so bland due to the short af story that doesn’t allow him or really anyone else to evolve as a character.

    FF XV abandons the innovation the series was once known for and feels like any other action RPG on the market, and it feels downright lazy when comparing to past games. Where’s the drive, the ambition, the reaching for the stars? Where’s the grand and at times over the top adventure that just blows the mind? I’m looking forward to what they can do over the lifetime of the game with dlc, but in the end they can only patch in so much content. Make FF XVI the turning point that returns the series to greatness.

  • Noctis

    hahahaha

  • Noctis

    by sleeping

  • Noctis

    I played all rpgs

    tales games….all FF games..and the list goes on

  • notbanned

    It’s legit the worst Final Fantasy I’ve ever played. And easily the worst battle system I’ve played in any RPG – No strategy or skill and the battles from level 5 are the same as level 50. Same at the start, same at the end – Warp Strike, Hold Attack for a few seconds, Dodge, Repeat….all while spamming potions to babysit your teammates.

    At least it looks pretty.

  • Yuntu

    “for a game that at most has as much content as a single disc of the PS1 era games that spanned four”

    wait one disc has 100 hours of content? i mustΒ΄ve missed that

    the hyperbole is real lol

  • Noctis

    I agree the combat in earlier stage was much better..

  • common joe

    I hope the “Season Pass” consists of more than just minor accessories and freebies that the majority of players will not use. A Season Pass implies actual content coming in the future…

    I found none of the new content interesting, useful, or particularly game enhancing for the file size.

    Main things people want from future content:
    Hard Mode, possibly extremely hard mode
    Additional Story or Bosses

    Right now it’s yet another reason why you should never purchase a season pass, future content remains to be seen but i’m not sure how you fix the broken magic system, the fact that people can go 0-99 in a few days now with the casting system, the all guy dynamic, and the fact that you can beat the game, watch the movie, read the collectors edition guide and still have no idea what is going on with the story.

  • Yuntu

    the season pass will feature 3 story episodes which was already made 100% clear

  • Ryuke

    Episode Gladio, Episode Ignis, Episode Prompto and the co-op DLC are all part of the season pass. These will feature additional content and story, as has been made clear from the start.
    This is a free update, 1.03, to the game that everyone gets, and the holiday pack is exactly that, a fun holiday pack. Anything added with the free updates and patches are purely additional content and fixes, for everyone, and is in no way related to the DLC and season pass.

  • common joe

    It’s not a game worthy of a number, its Kingsglaive plain and simple and should have been packaged with the movie. I also agree that the story and content is worthy of about a 1 disc from previous generations (excluding the graphics). It’s not the worst FF game i’ve played, it’s definitely one of the worst in the actual formal series though.

  • Ryuke

    I’ve played the game, so it’s not a spoiler for me personally but the many people that may come here to read about the patch, which is spoiler free, and discussions on the patch which have no reasons to have spoilers in them, will end up being spoiled by your comments.

  • AdriaanDR

    Relax guys, you’re agreeing with each other :p

  • Cody

    It took me half that to complete the story, all hunts, all post-game dungeons, and all sidequests. Content isn’t just determined by how much time it takes you to complete a game though. The limited everything aside from graphics when compared to those older games is also a heavy contributor. What’s the point of how long you spend when there’s so little variety in things to do with that time?

  • Yuntu

    I disagree completly. This game has as much stuff and depth as older entries, sure the story is shorter that isnΒ΄t even something I argue – but the other content is just as much there as usual in the franchise (and a BIG step up over everything after IX).

  • Meta

    What are you even talking about?Versus never became a game to begin with

    Whatever you knew of Versus XIII is dead and wasn’t even good to become a game in the first place

    Oh yeah that two empty CG trailers and one gameplay trailers were so touching with how empty they are lol Final Fantasy fans are pathetic

  • strifev1

    “FF XV abandons the innovation the series was once known for …”
    You say FF has abandoned innovation but cry for it to return to be what old FFs were. Make up your mind, do you want it to be different and innovative or do you want it to be the same thing that has been cloned by hundreds of other developers and their games since?

    This was the first real open world Final Fantasy, and while it isn’t perfect, I think they did a good job with it. FF will never return to what it was in the past and that is a good thing. It shouldn’t and can’t really. Gaming has evolved and FF has to as well.

  • notbanned

    “depth as older entries” & ” the other content is just as much there as usual in the franchise (and a BIG step up over everything after IX).”

    LOL x2 !!!!

  • Cody

    Gonna have to agree to disagree lol. The lack of slow, stop, haste, bio, holy, dark, water, non elemental, protect, shell, reflect, cure, esuna, etc spells bugs me. Being able to craft a couple of these into fire/ice/thunder doesn’t replace them. The lack of outfits bugs me. Sure in past games you couldn’t see the difference on your character model, but the options were there. The rest stops in place of cities is barely a step above the shops from XIII. No elaborate limit breaks bugs the heck out of me.

    The single countryside versus a world map is a step down in terms of adventure. Enemies being copied seems lazy and ruins the excitement of getting to the end of dungeons, especially post-game sealed dungeons. In one, you literally fight the exact type of enemy the final boss is about halfway in with the only difference being they are 4 levels apart. I mean, come on.

    It’s good as a game, but flops as a Final Fantasy entry is my opinion.

  • Yuntu

    How about arguments against the statement? Some people lol

  • strifev1

    I’m at almost 70 hours trying to finish side quests and hunts at Chapter 10 prior to completing the story. I guess I’m playing the game wrong or something.
    FFVII took me about 70 or 80 hours to level cap my main party, obtain Knights of the Round, a gold chocobo, ultimate limit break and weapons, and beat the game.

  • Yuntu

    I think you are blinded by nostalgia a bit. Because all FF games use reskinned enemies for later areas :I

    That aside the spells wouldnΒ΄t make sense in this game (and well Holy is in it; Slow, Stop, Bio (well more like Poisen) can be crafted and imo very well replaced through that) from its setting alone. It just wouldnΒ΄t work for this entry. And this game has just as many equipment options as FF7 started to introduce it into the franchise, no one really complained about it back then … and well I think the rest stops are fine for the theme the game is going for and are WAY better than what XIII had. And you have Limit Breaks that are elaborate, I think the team skills are just that – I donΒ΄t know whats different there …

    And I wonΒ΄t even comment on the world map thing, because that would include me trying to explain how incredible stupid a world map nowadays would be and how impossible it is to recreate the world map as a full on scale copy to give the same flair (and with the “countryside” (how you call it) they have hit that really well.

  • Cody

    Did you forget FF XII in terms of open world? I find it ridiculous that a game released now can’t have as many features as one released 20 years ago; I just want the series to build upon the many, many features it incremented upon during those years while also pushing forward. It’s strange that a game released 3 console generations afterwards actually has less stuff to do. I even forgot to include the lack of tactical depth too. In past games there were enemies you had to set up your party in certain ways for. Now, with the sole exception of Coeurls for which the game refuses to auto-dodge, you can hold the phase button and walk through the game.

  • Yuntu

    Yeah I really canΒ΄t wrap my head around how fast you gotta go through everything to complete everything the game has to offer in 50 hours.

  • strifev1

    Eeeh FFXII was not truly open world. A lot of it’s areas were just really big but still had “doorways” to get from one area to another.

    If you think about the development time it takes to make a game with today’s graphics standard AND budgets in mind you shouldn’t find it ridiculous.
    Developers have to cut things out for the greater experience and to meet a generally excepted release window, which is usually around 2 or 3 years (in before you mention 10 years in development, it wasn’t).

  • Pierrot.

    Lmao I’m asking the locations and name all of them.

  • Pierrot.

    The gameplay is also CG moron. It was shown in Visual Works montage.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQUZ-DeYMU

  • Pierrot.

    FFXII wasn’t open world.

  • ThatOneGuy7895

    This update was free for everyone. It wasn’t even part of the season pass…

  • Cody

    Reskinned as you progress, yes. But the way this game does it is like instead of, using FF VII you mentioned as an example, fighting Ruby or Emerald Weapon, you fight an abnormally strong Guard Scorpion or Motor Ball. It takes reskinning too far. A couple hunts like the Zu or Daemon Wall give you completely unique enemies you can’t fight elsewhere, but they’re not endgame bosses. There are no big bad unique secret bosses you have to level up crazily for or prepare to fight in a special way. There’s the same old things you fought in a dungeon a few hours ago and fought again in a hunt for them that opened after the first victory.

    Holy exists only as a counter. Stop, Cure, and Poison exist as effects added to Fire/Ice/Lightning. Aside from the game arbitrarily enforcing base elemancy as the only available magic, there’s no legitimate reason why more magic wouldn’t work.

    Rest stops are better than the XIII shops, but still well behind actual cities. And the game expects me to believe that the only cities are the capitals? Maybe I’d believe that in Chapter 14 but not otherwise. Techniques, the bar refills fast enough to spam them and they don’t go very far. Throw some daggers, swing your sword to make a shockwave, the tier 3 techs are maybe tier 1 limit breaks from past games. I just don’t feel they go far enough. They used to be on par with summons in the spectacle.

    It doesn’t have to be a literal world map. XII did it well with open world and travel between many different maps and locales. Being restricted to one area plus one decent-sized city, me no likey.

  • Cody

    Not truly, but really close enough. The areas were absolutely massive and it took a while to traverse from one end to the other. My deal is that it’s (mostly) relatively minor things that were cut ignoring the set game area. Minor things that added up to bug the heck out of me when viewing it as a FF game.

  • Yuntu

    Because of the lore this world is setup with. Magic isnΒ΄t something common and there isnΒ΄t much magic. ThatΒ΄s why it wouldnΒ΄t make sense to put more into it.

  • Noctis

    Lol do you think I remember such useless info muhahaha

  • Noctis

    That’s why they the took 50% of it.

    They just didn’t had the balls to go over with the original concept that’s it! Because tabata knows of to make touching ending…

  • Noctis

    It was the fastest selling Cuz people where fooled….dude please stop and do some research first

  • Noctis

    Yes of course….more then your useless posts

  • common joe

    Understood but this is tied in with the holiday content which has items for season pass owners only. The main point is that the content released doesn’t align with what people would want. For example, adding NG+ without a hard mode isn’t incredibly useful.

  • Sorelle

    Lol all free for now, if you want to know what’s on the season pass then look at the comments or go to the official website. Besides there is a l9t of “Free Content” coming without pay. Besides how about wait for future updates for the game instead of complaining. They need time to make sure everything is set before release. Also they did state a free holiday pack, but a bit less items than the paid one.

  • Sorelle

    Will probably add one in the future

  • common joe

    Hmm…. So you agree with me then…..
    You say there is plenty of content and that people should wait for future updates for discussion about season pass…..that’s the same as not getting it.

  • Link Xero

    not even close “enough”, but then again your point seems to be very shallow and simultaneously overbearing, kudos for that btw, and it seems that your problem is not the actual lack of content (which is an actuall problem for me) but the lack of flare, righ “comon RPG” was it?.
    Over all its just, its not good enough as the older more interesting, and better games, without concidering that at the time they could literally trow you any game and you would enjoy it, sad part is game become worse becuse of the players, much like you.

  • Over 300 comments. Hah. I remember the glory days that was FFXIII-2 and LRFFXIII.

  • Sorelle

    Thing is Square did claim on one of their forms that in the later future they will be adding in new modes like “God mode” and lower lvl difficulty. I assume “god mode” will be the hard difficulty. Yes people have to wait but complaining doesn’t make the process go any faster. These updates will be FREE as this is considered a long term goal for the team.

  • It’s likely that they may have completed less Final Fantasy entries than they love to admit. One of the guy I know often say shit about FFXV but he only played FFXIII and that was because it came to Steam.

  • common joe

    Seems like two camps are forming and frankly I think you are in the vast majority on this one. The main traits of FF are things like ultima spells, massive summons, extremely elaborate stories with entire massive mini-games ingrained. Moogles floating about and a wide variety of cool weapons and spell combos that you can make to suit your fancy not to mention the variety of demographics of the game characters (one of it’s strongest features). One of the most important are the back story and extensive mini-bosses followed by Ultima and Omega Weapon. This game all but completely deletes the heart from the FF series for no really good reason. It’s simply not a numbered game and should have been a side game with a non-numbered title. If not a main series entry it would have been a complete unanimous success by reviewers because expectations would have been lowered. Same price, same profits same everything else.

  • Sorelle

    Thing is that Square stated they will be releasing more new content for free as they want players to enjoy FF 15 for a long time. So the made it clear in a forum that they will be releasing new modes like “Low lvl mode” and “God Mode’ which I assume is their hard mode. Yes people have to wait but complaining doesn’t make things progress ant faster. This would be part of their short to long term goals.

    http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/12/07/final-fantasy-xv-free-updates-detailed-new-playable-characters-avatar-system-chapter-13/

  • Link Xero

    really worse, than 13? than 12?, you say the lack of story do you forget that vaan had no impact on the events of 12? or that the story itself was a poor excuse, that lead you in a complete circle, that ended up in, well, nohing? or the 3 disc movie that was 13?, right the worst in “the actual formal seriers” funny how memmory works.

  • ThatOneGuy7895

    But it’s not part of the season pass. There are only a few useful items from the holiday update that are tied to the season pass. There are still major story/gameplay expansions coming in the season pass, I don’t understand the problem.

    I love the sound of the items we’re getting. And besides the point, I also love that they added a new game plus where I can feel god like going through the story a second time, but I understand the desire for more challenge, but this is pretty good for a free update that wasn’t initially planned for the game

  • “Doorways” are not what determine open world. Open world simply means freely accessible not seamless zones. Even the king of open world, TES, has loading screens and locked areas all over the place.

    The mass of development time in games is in gameplay mechanics not design assets, even then, legacy FF games were loaded with highly detailed environments and tons of pre-rendered GC. FFXV can’t even make a hotel lobby, instead you get a poorly designed “ticket window”. The terrain is fairly copypasta making the environment incredibly bland. I don’t hate XV, they did a good job with the story, combat system and overall playability of the game. But content is incredibly thin for a FF game. No hidden ultimate weapons to unlock, no mini-game puzzles to get bonus gear until after you beat it. Really easy cheese factor for AP/XP and a dozen other issues, not the least of of which is artificial time sinks/gates. SE has simply gotten lazy about creating a few great things and is now about diversifying. It’s understandable, in the last decade they have consistently lost money.

  • common joe

    I still can’t tell if we agree or disagree lol. You are noting the free content and my comment was concerns over season pass content. If they want to throw in free content then i’m fine with it as long as it’s smart. I don’t think NG+ minus hard mode is smart. It simply doesn’t make sense. Holiday exclusive season pass content is super lack luster. The difference between free stuff and paid stuff is you shouldn’t complain about free stuff but if you pay you have all the right in the world to complain about receiving junk or as good as free content.

    Criticisms are important. If they model FF7 one of the most beloved in the series using this engine as reported they are then they need to understand what people don’t want. It also forms a root for what they should work towards.

  • Link Xero

    that is the problem, that people expect things now, and as such the devs try and fill those expectation most of the time falling, why? because its imposible to meet the expecatiton.
    Agin if you are talking about the heart of FF it was not there in 10, everything utterly lacks the so called “heart”, not to mention that everything else (well not everithing, most) that you mention is a lie, there was never a huge variaty of weapons, there were the same, 6 spells, in variating levels, there were actually never that many mini-games if you think about it and not that massive, and well there is still omega weapon.
    So the game is lacking? yes. Should it not be a “main” numbered game? that is not for you to decide. And finally, you are right the story is very shallow it was its momments, but not enough.

  • common joe

    Anything that is for Season pass only is Season pass……not sure what you mean it’s not part of the season pass. The side stories planned for season pass aren’t the only things that qualify for season pass.

    Glad you like the Newgame+ content, I think without hard mode there is no reason to start over versus just continue to grow your items and ascension trees in your end game state to carry over once newgame+ gets a revision for hard mode. I suppose you might beat it again and again while you wait if you are die hard though.

  • common joe

    FYI “one of the worst” means it’s towards the bottom, not the bottom.

  • Link Xero

    the problme is, as stated before, that players now want , more, instead of they have.

  • Martian Wong

    If I have yet to clear any of the Menaces, should I wait until I clear all of them and have Adamantoise defeated before starting NG+?

  • Link Xero

    FYI, its not one the worse, it simply means that you, and many others, want a game that makes them feel like the first time they played any FF game, it will never hapen boy, as of now no matter what they release, it will simply never be enough-

  • common joe

    If it isn’t for the players to decide….then the series truly is doomed.

    Remember the golden saucer? How about the jacked up bizarre graphics phoenix minis in 8? There were cool mini-games. I think XV’s totomostro is kind of like that though adding animal/person(storyline) brutality for kicks

    is right up there with the pure male chauvanistic junk aspect of this game (women in bikinis and boobs out all male boy band crew with no variation on demographics at all).

    Feedback is vital to the lifeline of the series. People are venting because they love FF and the amazing items and characters we have seen over the various games. People will always have expectations but removing the ultima spells, the omegas, the massive number of summons seen in the past, the colorful outfits, etc. etc. doesn’t do any favors.

  • Link Xero

    yes the combat is, underwelming, if anything it is too easy, that what happens when you try to please everyone, “for veterans and new fans”, i mean they could have gone and do it like romancing saga and that would have been an interesting gameplay.

  • Breathless

    Good thing I did mention the thermal suit myself there in the brackets. But do tell us about all the others then, please!

  • You should really stop replying to comments here. I mean no offense but your English comprehension is causing you to not understand people who are agreeing with you nor is it constructive. The problem with forgetting words is that the sentence loses all value and meaning. The above makes 0 sense.

  • Stonespear

    Haha.

  • Aulix Indragonz

    clear all of them before new game+
    new game+ change nothing in terms of overall story and difficulty
    it’s kinda shit especially when new game+ usually means stronger higher level enemies and new item

  • common joe

    I simply think you are wrong. It can be done and i’m extremely hopeful that the revised FF7 will show you just that and could be used as a model for future versions if they stick to the classic elements and don’t screw with the summons/magic.

    I agree that “One of the worst” is a subjective term but only time and majorities will give it that distinction not you or I. Right now it stays an opinion.13 IS one of the worst because the majority and history says so regardless of a few individuals who really liked it. I hypothesize that this will be in the same boat 10 years from now, you disagree, that’s cool.

  • ThatOneGuy7895

    That’s what I’m saying, the new game plus is not season pass only, it’s free for everyone.

    The only season pass only content being released for this holiday pack is a set of useful items. Are you disappointed with those items or something? Ithink they’re gonna be helpful for me, but They are definitely not representative of the rest of the content from the season pass that was already described for us.

  • Link Xero

    it isnt for players to decide, much like a reader doesnt choose if the book belongs to a series, or a person seeing a painting decides if it belongs toa style, it also applies for games.
    Now you are changing “many min-games” for “cool”, made up your mind boy. also for kiks? like the monster arena in ff9? or the frog hunting that wasnt brutal, perhaps the thunder plains challenge, i mean getting “zap” by thunder is always so fun.
    Aww “male chauvanistic junk aspect” you do realize that it is a JRPG they quite famus for their xenophobia and unique taste, also you say “male”, but what about a dude going no shirt? is that also part of the big bad male agenda? yes, much like lulu absurd breast, or riku very nice skin tight suit, perhaps the “normal” looking rinoa, or the hot pants of garnet, if anything there has always been extremely gorgeous, women in limited clothing, in FF the same with dudes with no shirt or always showing their beyond marked abs, so your point is that since graphics are better then they should not show it? Im going on alimp here and say that your memory is fading,convenietly.
    No people are venting because its not what they wanted, for example the ultima spells do exist, you know flare and so on.
    Feedback is what lead the series to this point, after all “open world” “real life combat”, etc, is what people wanted.

  • Mauricio Acosta

    That was pre rendered gameplay that ya boy Nomura cooked up to keep the hype alive.

  • Sorelle

    But hard mode isn’t in the season pass, it will be free. They probably want to listen to fan feedback into what the fans want in this hard mode. I’m sure if they do hard mode the lvl cap will be increased new boss monsters and even monsters in general will be added. They want to add in new accessories and weapons to the deal I’m sure. There are a lot of things I’m they’re considering. Just have to be patient and wait. True that I do find it odd that there is not Hard mode as andll games have one, but maybe they are.trying to make their hard mode different than other games.

  • chemical monkey

    i started a NG+ i have the ultima blade and a engine blade

  • Link Xero

    Are you stupid enough to realize that FF7 is a revised game? meaning they are just improving the graphics because if they change the story it wont be ff7, so instead of improving and making somenthing new and better lets stay with the same 3 things?
    Yes very helpfull afterall time moves backwards…..no wait.
    Ofcourse you think i am wrong, how dense can you be if that were not the case why would you be even “arguing”.
    Over all you think the classics are the best and there will never be anything better, thankfully as much as you hate it, time and well everything else always move forward making your whole “hope” nothing more than aproven mistake.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    Dude you realize ardyn and almost all of ffxv is a ripoff of ffvi right? Magitek empire. A subordinate who kills the emporer and takes over. An imperial knight who has a change of conscience about the hero. Further more kefka’s victory lasted for at least 10 years just like ardyn’s because aftwr everything happens everyone is scattered to the wind and an undefined amount of time passes. Half the worlds population has died. You should really go back and play it again because you dont know what the fuck you’re talking about.

  • John Rockman

    Fix the X button! Crafting jump chocobo jump, jump.. Is only my problem?

  • Link Xero

    there was a time that i would actually care about that, also when someone says, “no offense” they always are offensive, for example; no offense but it not just me that lacks english comprhension.
    You dont realize what my point i, granted, like you said, i did missed words, a terrible mistrake form my part, let me reprise then, its simple, if the game is bad its almost certain that is because of the players or more like the expectation that the players put on the devs.
    On that note i appreciate the “note” sadly as many things in this word, it will go unnoticed

  • Martian Wong

    Do I get anything special for clearing them?

  • Dronichus

    I agree with the sloppy copy paste work on the terrain /rock/building textures. its too obvious that they copy pasted everything, sometimes you see the same texture 6x in 10cm space.

    That aside, there are maybe not “ultimate” weapons because they are not described as much but there are weapons that fall into the category, you need to do a butt quest that requires high lvl’s to be able to obtain them, this is see as the ultimate weapons. Sure they don’t need upgrading like in X but even X required you to have “beaten” the game to get them and upgrade them fully (yes you could skip going to SIN, thus not really beating the game).

    As for open world.. most FF games were open world, meaning you could backtrack to almost every place with the earlier games using a full world map to roam..

    I quote: “Open world, roam, or sandbox are terms for video games where a player can move freely through a virtual world and is given considerable freedom in regard to how or when to approach particular objectives, as opposed to other video games that have a more linear structure to their gameplay.”

    For the newgame+, i would also have liked to see a difficulty setting higher. But it can still be useful.
    Right now i’m at lvl 65 party average, having done almost every side quest and maybe 15 monster hunts left.
    Leveling up is going slower and slower. I’m really considering starting a newgame+ so i can replay the story, get more easy loot from early quests/hunts etc etc. This would allow me to get to lvl 99 without tedious grinding. Though this is a personal opinion.

  • You’re expecting a ‘quality’ season pass in a series that has never had a season pass before…

    Keep dreaming.

    Our true extra content will come… In ff15-2 and maybe a -3 just like they did for 13. Mark mybwords

  • Victor Mickeal

    That is quite alright! I am one of those rare individuals, who will understand and respect that you may not like FFXV over Witcher 3, without threatening WWIII. I may believe the quite opposite, but these are our opinions.

    What’s amazing is that we can actually come to a disagreement like decent individuals. A little over romanticize about our favorite titles, but that’s okay. We kept it classy and I thank you for that.

  • Dronichus

    @linkxero:disqus . It’s not as good as some older FF games. It’s a lot better than other older FF games, is it the best FF game? i don’t think so, and neither will anyone else who played from at least FF7 claim this i guess.

    Sad part is, you claiming single player games getting worse because of people like him, that’s just the biggest bull i read today.. If you don’t like the game then don’t play it, don’t go ranting here and blaming your lack of imagination/ability to adapt on other people.

    Square builds a game on their player base wishes along with their own ideas. This means the majority of people want a game like this.

  • Link Xero

    You just proved my point, if what you say true and square builds a game based on their player base wishes along their own ideas, then, if this game is laking as most people put it, then its because the people, wanted it. and some how people are still complaining am i wrong?
    Sad part is you dont read properly, do you? or write by that matter, since you contradict your own point. that is called bull, If anything i was saying that the game is not bad at all but i guess that was just to difficult for you to understand, not a problem let me simplify it for you; the game is not bad, stop complaining, enjoy the game.

  • Dronichus

    @joe_commento:disqus Even IF the FF7 remake will bring you back that feeling, it would only work IF FF7 was the first FF you ever played, otherwise that story doesn’t work. I hardly doubt that it will come close. Ambiance/background music/and graphic setting was just way better done back in the days. Seeing the new combat system from FFXV will be used, maybe somewhat updated, i doubt the summon/magica system will be available as it was in 7.

    Best/worst is still a matter of opinion, i personally thought 13 was a good game even if it was completely different and i enjoyed playing 13-2. Lightning Returns was a bit sloppy if you ask me but still enjoyable if you do not put you FF7/8/9/10 expectations in the mix. Lets just agree for the same of an endless discussion that the first FF game you play will always be the best for you personally (unless you are really unlucky and played FFXIII: LR, j/k ;))

  • Dronichus

    Quote: “Over all its just, its not good enough as the older more interesting, and better games, without concidering that at the time they could literally trow you any game and you would enjoy it, sad part is game become worse becuse of the players, much like you.”

    Lets not even start about writing issues.

  • Aulix Indragonz

    no. new game+ is there so we can enjoy new cutscene, new character,new dlc,new map that SE will release in the future
    which is bullshit when they should’ve put it in full in the first place

  • michael abreu

    Finishing the game and continuing is not newgame+ you just get end game content. Tomorrow is the release. And for the guys talking crap about the season pass do some research first. Season pass includes 3 separate dlc that will be based on gladiolus prompto and ignis as playble characters. As well as God mode and level cap mode. As well as another dlc which will include MULTIPLAYER COOP expansion. So for a game that has never had a season pass they came out swinging. Not to mention timed events special bosses and more story added to enhance the experience. So stop hating and actually buy the game before you talk crap

  • Dronichus

    I agree that combat is too easy.. wait.. do i? Lets recap, FF7 had turn based combat with a counter to everything and an OP summon/magic spam system.
    Yes some bosses were hard and took a while to figure out how to beat, once figured out not so hard anymore. Same go’s for 10.

    How is this different? Once you figure out the weakness of a mob/boss equip the right gear then it’s the same as before.

    I think your expectations are too high if you claim it to be underwhelming.

    If they had done it like “this” game or “that” game then people would complain it’s the same as “this” game or “that” game.

  • Link Xero

    Sarcasm, trully hard to put in written words.
    True lets not start, i always lose that battle, but unfortunately for you the point still remains, you cant write properly, nor read, sad i know even more more coming from me, but still true.

  • Nathaniel

    It’s not bullshit. They could have stopped working on the game, but they’re still developing stuff. I’m sure most fans are happy (or at least should be) that they’re still working to improve the game and to add free stuff in it. They decided to add some stuff AFTER they released the game (I’m not talking about the scheduled dlc) and I certainly wouldn’t have preferred to wait another year for the game to be released, not to mention I like having the devs support and add things to the game after it’s been released. It’s basically how it works in the game industry now and as long as it’s free, it works.

  • michael abreu

    I’m 80 hrs in by the best and still have content no way this game is short

  • Link Xero

    No i mean you can pass the game on lvl 20 ignoring weaknesess and everything else you mentioned, just literally press square and you are good to go.
    For example as much as you would like to belive you could not pass ff7 on lvl 20, nor ff10 with no use of the grid, in this game you can.

    You trully have no idea what you are talking about, nor realize that the mention of romancing saga was meant to be a joke, further proving that you have no idea what you are talking about, not only the game dificulty is underwhelming but your understanding of many other games mechanics.

  • Dronichus

    Seriously go back to school, just reading your writing is a strain on the eye’s.

  • Nathaniel

    I’m not sure what you’re going on about but we already have a good idea of what the season pass covers. At least three dlc packs, in which each one will include side stories with new bosses and allow you to play as one of Noctis’ friends, not to mention a co-op mode we don’t know much about yet but seems promising. Might be soon to tell if it’s gonna be quality content or not, but seems like a nice concept to me. New items, side stories, characters to have full control upon, cool bosses, multiplayer. We have enough info for anyone to decide if they want to pay for the season pass or not, no?

  • Link Xero

    Yes, but at the very least the content is not utterly lacking or vastly mistaken like yours, now that would be doubly straining.

  • Dronichus

    Everything you say is just *yawn* on this site, >blocked<.

  • Link Xero

    and? the “blocked” part is simply, childish(?), imature(?), im sure it fits your age.

  • Aulix Indragonz

    it’s nice of you for still being positive and having faith on SE but no i’ll tell you what is bullshit
    10 years they left the fans waiting then the new director said it himself they only used 4 years out of total 10 for developing the game
    then after those 4 years the game only ended up look like it was developed for 2 years at most and cutting off many contents because they clearly couldn’t beat their own deadline

  • If you mean the upgradable weapons, of which there are only a handful then sure. My point is to get, say Lulu’s you had to dodge 200 lightning strikes, Wakka’s you had to win Blitzball, and for any of them you had to do the whole mirror business. Point is, you had a bunch of content just for that and many other things on top of it. Sphere puzzles in every temple and a lot more depth. VIII had tons of hidden stuff. Hidden GFs, Triple Triad, the whole Junction System and Card refine.

    Assuming you have a decent amount of coins (Rare, Debased) you can go from level 50 to 99 in about 10 minutes. Just craft up Expericast spells at lvl 99 experience boost and go kill something that is around lvl 50 for 1-2mil exp.

  • Jesse Wagner

    Would love to save promptos work to the hard drive or usb.

  • Fvckinskate

    I totally agree, Everytime i go for an event or chocobo I end up Jumping and moving around couple of times everytime before I actually manage to do it.

  • Fvckinskate

    After 80 hours of shitty first degree side-quests and monster hunt, when I actually went back main story line I was so pissed and tired of this shit I rushed throught the whole thing without a glimpse of emotion, the only thing in my head was fuck this I’m finishing this then, switching back to another game. They should stop working on this game right now and make FF7r worth playing. this game should die already and why the fuck would people want to pay for cosmetics in a single player game … Serioously…

  • Kat Busby

    Hit the “Share” button, and it automatically saves to your gallery. So you can view them like normal screenshots etc. Discovered that when I sent a “dodgy” pic of Noct fishing to someone πŸ˜›

  • Randy Marsh

    Criticism has always existed before the internet little boy.

  • Kevin Schoulten

    You can hold square to slow down before pressing X

  • AnimeFan89

    Now that is a definite NG+ curbstomp confirmed, I’m even more excited now.

  • Larxene howar

    Then explain Lightning returns New game +

  • Larxene howar

    If that’s the case then Lightning returns did a good job on their new game +

  • Navras Santos

    i have been so disappointed with this game πŸ™ its depressing how its core story and characters content was cut off from the game cause of contracts, i understand but i would rather wait another 6 months for the true vision of this amazing world.

    i have been on these amazing journeys, some better than others, since FF1… I love FF15 up to chapter 12, after that it does not make sense at all pacing wise, lots of potential for an amazing character and story development BUT this is absolutely bullshit from SE.

    i mean what in the actual F are we dealing with here? seriously… think about it for a second…New game plus with not even the most basic adjustment for the enemies levels?? whats the point?? having fun one hit killing everything while enjoying the void of the characters and the bad pacing? to improve so that we can experience what you promised to deliever us and this is what you do? after all this time??

    your forums are full of ideas and ways to improve the game, I mean theres even ppl sharing a petition (pointless imo) to have nomura reboot this f”#%& mess and give us “versus XIII”…

    ohhhh right….. you are adding this now so you can add stuff later and charge us for what you promised us from the start, as seen in all the BS publicity and misleading trailers with content I felt more invested in than what is actually in the game!! ofc… how f$%”% stupid of me to think you could at least have the integrity to give us everything that was cut off from the game free of charge…. (not just cutscenes…)

    Stop this BS and go work on a proper patch to adress what the game is truly missing for F sakes… we waited 10 years!! sure you didnt work on it that long but still, you should respect us all, you should be totally aware of our faith in you as a company. we saved you, we believed in you… you had all the info you needed to make this good, all the resources but you lack experience as F…

    what is going on these days? i have to pay to know where gladdy went to get those scars?? i have to pay to be able to explore the “snow area” with episode prompto or some shit like that?? are you serious??

    i have such amazing memories with this franchise, talking with friends, debating how to kill weapons, where is hades hidden cavern, the philosophical & chaotic mind of kefka, the gods, the summons, the deaths of party members, the heroism, the morals, the hard choices…it was always a little special piece of foundation of who i am today… cant believe you are the same company that gave me the best virtual adventures of my entire life… i just cant.

    Tabata does make things happen yes, made this possible, really thankful for the effort, amazing concept, but you are not FF material imo.

  • Soulash

    it does not give the awesome FF vibe at all…
    i am playing it for sake that it is an FF but not in some way, i believe you can i understand what i am saying,,, FFVIIr hope this will bring back FF or atleast show them how it should be made

  • β€’december

    I’m afraid we’re all going to have to wait, mate.

  • Soulash

    waiting never been a problem always fun to wait for this great game and anticipating and imagining what the story would be like, i want FF to be like before regarding the story, all the time you are playing the story going deeper and deeper understanding the characters and learning more about them and the world around being connected to them not being distracted by million quests playing it like an MMO, losing or forgetting details when investing in these things, i miss being immersed in the story and the depth, and specially how amazing things turns out from being a simple character to becoming the savior of the world, through sacrifice and pain and love, i miss FF

  • β€’december

    Best soundtrack I’ve ever heard in any Final Fantasy game ever.
    i favour it over Ocarina of Time’s OST as well as FF7.
    Hellfire blows Sephiroth’s theme out of the park.

  • Jesus Christ

    Hehe

  • Jesus Christ

    So is this the real review comment section? Cause my goodness 385 comments?! I have really missed out.

  • Angel

    I’m on 155 hours and my currente save is inside the secret dungeon in costlemark, i already have the platinum trophy, the game is good and addictive, but this update is just ok, i will wait until the REAL new game+. with hard difficulty, new maps, accesories.

  • MechanicalWeeb

    pfft you clearly stuck on the past from ps2 era and back. and clearly you never had played FF XIII.

  • Navras Santos

    @soulash yes, I agree with your words and well put, I miss that as well.

  • Faisal Merchant

    Before calling me “fucking stupid” perhaps you should check your grammer and spelling first let alone actually read what I said before making a reply.

  • Taylor Gardner

    Wheere/When do we get all the bonus items that they mentioned…

  • Andrew Markham

    Tomorrow

  • Taylor Gardner

    even though the patch is already Live?
    I’ve already started on the story again…

  • Andrew Markham

    Pretty sure it’s a DLC download.

  • Taylor Gardner

    the update log says the bonus content was added…
    and seeing as how it’s supposed to be a free update anyway it shouldn’t be in the store {not counting the season pass}

  • Acrisis

    Correction, the Holliday DLC (or free update) is indeed free, but a premium version exists for people who bought the season pass, which makes sense because… well, they paid for the extra stuff.

  • Taylor Gardner

    if you actually read the full comment, you’ll find where I said “Not counting Season Pass”

  • Amir Hamzah

    what cosmetics are you talking about?

  • Amir Hamzah

    3 story dlcs coming. what are you talking about?

  • Amir Hamzah

    theres a really fast way to level up. rack up like 100-200k of exp and rest at the 10k gil per night hotel in altissa. boom. problem solved

  • Amir Hamzah

    whats the difference with previous final fantasies? none of them were hard. you either had to farm levels and gear or have a shit ton of recovery items. get real

  • Amir Hamzah

    no you definitely have not played the harder dungeons. good luck spamming the higher level sealed dungeons by just spamming the attack button and some random gear you equip. The main game is easy but its always been easy in the final fantasy series. It’s the post game/ hidden stuff that’s difficult.

  • Amir Hamzah

    dafuq?

  • Amir Hamzah

    you have to understand. nostalgia is a funny thing. if the first final fantasy or any jrpgs for that matter that you every played was vii then its going to be your favorite.

  • Amir Hamzah

    yep ardyn is the only villain that actually achieved his goal fully. heck he even got to finally rest in pieces like he wanted.

  • Amir Hamzah

    outdated graphics?? hahahahhaha!!!

  • Amir Hamzah

    its the draw distance. From the looks of it the LOD quality drops at around 5-10 meters.

  • Link Xero

    why do you think that i havent? i cleared them at lvl 50-ish, with the exception of costlemark, for that one i actually had to lvl up a bit(up to 99) those 4 red giants are just annoying, but one or maybe 2 good armiger and your are good to go.
    Honestly is just that fight, everything else its kind of easy.

  • Nick

    155 hours already..U must literally be playing more than a full time job everyday

  • Breathless

    It’s true that works, so it is a solution for now. It is THE solution for now.

    However, the exported JPGs are quite crap quality – something that could have been improved with this patch. And doing it one by one every time you rest is a pain in the butt too – something that could also have been improved with this patch. The entire framework is already there for an “Export All” feature, so it wouldn’t even take much to add at least that with this patch.

    Instead we get photo frames – which we now also have to pick every single time for every single photo we want to share, before the actual save+share thing happening, adding another step into the already pain in the butt makeshift export process. Ain’t that grand…?

  • Kimberlyjmontoya

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  • Are they going to patch the AI? I wish that we had some way of directing party members to do certain things, like NOT run into the enemy when they’re charging up for a big attack. Hehe. I swear. 90% of my consumables are wasted on them. πŸ™‚

  • Ryuke

    The patch added support for the new items with the Holiday DLC. It was poorly worded in the patch notes. The actual items themselves are in the holiday DLC which will be on the store (both the free version and the plus version for Season Pass holders). Hope that helps!

  • NoctLightCloud

    I’m glad they’re releasing these DLCs after all πŸ™‚

  • Daniel Sykes

    When I think new game plus I don’t think “play through with enemy levels increased to balance mine” I think “play through again more quickly with incredibly over powered godlike characters ala Chrono Trigger.” Is that only me? I keep seeing people whine that new game plus doesn’t make the game more difficult but in my head that’s the opposite of the point of the new game plus.

  • Daniel Sykes

    I long for the day that people stop pretending Final Fantasy 7 is better than mediocre. The beginning of the game is unbearable, the end of the game is a mind-numbing chore, the characters are awful. Move along people, move along.

  • stevenm281

    Exactly! I don’t know what is this new deal, they want a hard mode, fine! But why tie it to the NG+?

    NG+ is to make the game easier by making you start high-level, so that you can enjoy the story without grinding for exp.

  • Boston John

    They will also be patching in the rest of the game (they laid out a pretty thorough roadmap) in the future, developers and publishers im hoping are taking note in terms of AAA sales being down as i believe part of the reason is people realize its best to wait due to many day one performance issues etc and in this case people who buy it later will have the “complete” exp… I myself dont go back and play games 6 months or so later, so i would like to believe i would come back to check this out again after they patch in the rest of the story but by then i will be playing other games.. I am looking forward to the dlc though. very much.

  • Boston John

    change the controls around might help?

  • Boston John

    fucking assholes, im trying to take a break to you know take a shower and feed my fat face but after reading some of the comments i feel like i must go back to the game.. thanks alot jerks

  • Boston John

    Square Enix takes the FF brand dead seriously, look at how they got the devs to whip realm reborn into shape. they will do the same with this game with or without dlc, mark my words.

  • Boston John

    gonna post this here too

    Square Enix takes the FF brand dead seriously, look at how they got the devs to whip realm reborn into shape, that costed them a crap ton of money. they will do the same with this game with or without dlc, mark my words. they dont fck around when it comes to this brand > THE brand

  • John Rockman

    X is default for all 3 control setting, with the same button noct jump, confirm, craft material, mount chocobo ecc, many times he jump when you are not very close to target.. A little bit frustrating.

  • John Rockman

    Thanks I try it, very useful solution πŸ˜‰

  • Odin

    A fantasy based on no man’s sky

  • Odin

    If jesus christ has to come down to earth to comment about FFXV, then the game is going to hell. lol

  • Jared Coe

    hey dude whats god like also why would you turn water into wine when you could have turned it into sprite, sprite is awesome and it literally takes me all of 2 seconds to down an entire glass

  • Jared Coe

    also that adam and eve story is bull isnt it due to yknow the messed up thing that would have to take place numerous time for the human population to go from 2 to the number of people in biblical times

  • Mahtae Myong

    All these so called final fantasy fans complaining about everything. Like stfu and enjoy the game. Stop your crying. Stop defending the cry babies that want the game to be made perfectly. Every game has it’s flaws so sad to see so many “fans” complaining. Don’t like the way FFXV is then don’t play!

  • Mahtae Myong

    Haha and your comment will be no longer mister I can use curse words lmao!

  • Mahtae Myong

    It is not useless it gives a challenge. People are jumping for joy because of this item. He’s asking for stronger enemies that are harder to take down well my solution to his question is this item. His team won’t gain any experience and won’t level up. Soooo as you progess further into the game you won’t be leveling up but your enemies will be stronger and harder to take down. This item essentially makes the game more difficult.

  • Mahtae Myong

    Stop explaining to me when I already know of this knowledge fool.

  • Ferrick

    it is useless because by the time most players who has started the game, and possibly finished it and started a new game plus, your level would already outlevel everything the game throws at you, therefore the item is worthless, the only time this item has a use is if you started all over from the beginning and use it

  • Ferrick

    that, or he’s a pretty down to earth guy *ba dum tss*

  • iAreShay

    It’s obvious you’re the fool who doesn’t understand shit. But if you say so princess.

  • Mahtae Myong

    Awe look who’s butt hurt now d’awwww

  • Mahtae Myong

    You can still use this item in the middle of the game. It will still prevent you from leveling up and there are expansion packs coming soo yeah actually the item will be usefull but thanks try again!

  • iAreShay

    Thanks for the proof of your lack of puberty.

  • iAreShay

    Thanks for the proof of your lack of puberty.

  • Ferrick

    even in the middle of the game you’re still levelled enough to make future “challenges” unchallenging with this useless item, try again

  • iAreShay

    In the unwise words of a weeb.. “Awe look who’s butt hurt now d’awwww”

  • Mahtae Myong

    Hahaha still talking? I find this item usefull fuckboy so go somewhere.

  • Ferrick

    well, you can’t argue with stupidity Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

  • Dainsleif_10

    I actually stopped playing the game after I read that some patches and updates will be made for the game. When I heard ch.13 had some problems, I just want the devs to fix that and add the promised contents to have a better gaming experience.

  • Ferrick

    such salt Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

  • Ferrick

    ah, good to know that you don’t exist, because you sure do as hell care~

    hell you cared enough to keep posting

  • Ferrick

    well that was a sad comeback, not that i was expecting anything witty out of you but still i am colossally disappointed, your comeback is as weak as the game’s story itself

  • Mahtae Myong

    God these comments are so light and fragile. Pussy comments yours are. Pshh and you’re really a moron if you think FFXV story is weak. That only means you didn’t watch any of the brotherhood anime and didn’t watch the kingsglaive movie. The game, anime, movie all connect and explains the story. Obviously you are not a true fan of final fantasy noob.

  • Ferrick

    what? You expect me to treat you seriously after all of those childish and weak comments and comebacks you’ve made? My efforts are better wasted at boiling water than your sorry ass, kingsglaive and brotherhood didn’t add anything to the game, the pacing of the game was terrible, they threw every revelations in one chapter, all villains except ardyn were decorations, and it manages to be even more linear than corridor simulator XIII, and you’re really going to throw “true final fantasy fan” bullshit at me? The only one here that’s not a true FF fan is you, a true fan would not accept this bullshit of a story, a true fan would not accept being treated like trash by Tabata and square enix, a true fan would not stoop so low to accept an incomplete game from them and call it the magnum opus of FF.

  • Hero Toxiko

    you mean the full on action game spinoff?

  • Hero Toxiko

    Older than you, but that only makes his comment seem stupid. How did he hear people say “ff7 wasn’t a real ff game” when he was a kid and most ff games hadn’t been released in america?

  • Hero Toxiko

    that was intentional. even the damn eyes.

  • Hero Toxiko

    Says “all” lists 3, hahahahah. smt[the reason for persona] sacrificed everyone including the gods…

  • Hero Toxiko

    DLC

  • Hero Toxiko

    ffx ffix ffviii ffvi ffii

  • Hero Toxiko

    still better than the 13 series

  • Hero Toxiko

    most of the tales games involve a party member sacrifice. all of the star ocean games require a party member sacrifice.

  • Hero Toxiko

    pretty sure kefka didn’t want anything though, just power for shit’s and giggles. also, ardyn wins permanently, the bloodlines were wiped out and he got to die.

  • Jordon Patrick Mears

    Intentional or not it still proves my argument is correct in that kefka is the best villain in all of final fantasy. Ardyn may have turned the entirw world to darkness but kefka ripped the world asunder and created his own floating kingdom to reign down upon his prisoners from as a god amongst men. Kefka controlled the gods of his world while ardyn merely usurped the power of his gods. Any way you slice it kefka reigns supreme and ardyn is merely an impersonation and that while is really damn close and i honestly think hes the best villain since kefka but still falls just a tad but too shy. I absolutely loved the game dont get me wrong. But he isnt the best villain or the only one to ever succeed in his attempt.

  • Fucking Savage

    How fucking dare we come up with new ideas to make the game better!! Fuck off dude. We are are complaining BEACAUSE we love final fantasy and we want XV to become an even better game.

  • Jordy Sutanto

    well the point way i dont like FF XV:
    my playtime to platinum just 40hour they say minimum 80h gameplay.. i think the story can long enough.. but too much side-quest..

    the trailer is spoiling our walkthrough before the game release.. the EPIC MOMENT VIDEO released before we play the game..

    the summon is lower than i anticipate..
    and the story is a bit short cause of the story of kingsglaive & brotherhood..

    they can add some story before the fight with leviathan..
    and it’s a bit hyperbola in my mind for 10 YEAR OF waiting if this game release before 2015 i think its good..

  • Jordy Sutanto

    yeah wait it too.. persona 5 & kingdom hearts 2.8 haha

  • Hero Toxiko

    persona 5 is 4 months away

  • Hero Toxiko

    the dark world was just an offshoot of his plan, he wanted everyone involved with the crystal celestial and oracle powers dead, and also wanted to die. kefka didn’t want to die so that part wasn’t a victory.

  • Hero Toxiko

    you mean the action game spinoff?

  • Hero Toxiko

    It’s not new, it’s one of the oldest trends in the game industry.

  • Etherblaze

    “it’s better than 13” isn’t saying much.

  • Hero Toxiko

    3456 and 7 were better than 2.

    9, 10 and dissidia were good while 8 was lukewarm.

    11 and 14 were sub par mmo’s and 14-reborn is a good one

    12 feels better now because everything involved with 13 was Motomu waifu wars trash….

    Basically, it’s better because they’re actually trying.

  • Etherblaze

    12 was always good. Decent politics plot, morally grey protagonist (Ashe, mostly). The only flaw in it were Vaan and Penelo tagging along. Mostly Vaan. As well as learning the battle system. People see it as an offline MMO but it’s really just a seamless turn based/ATB system.

    The International Zodiac Job System version of 12 fixes a lot of things, and that’s coming to the west as Zodiac Age. IZJS did almost everything better (aside from the “modern fantasy aesthetic”, as well as the real-time combat). It even had classes/jobs, and different ways to build characters.

    >they’re actually trying

    “trying to please everyone”, more likely. Apparently some of Luna’s scenes were cut because of perceived outrage. “Open world” because everything has to be open world now; because once a lot of gamers hear the word “linear” they start frothing at the mouth. When linearity isn’t inherently bad on its own (games like Trails of Cold Steel)

    FFXII also had an “open world” that was divided into sections, because hardware. Set up structurally similar to FFXV, where places are locked off due to story. Though you have to progress through more story to unlock more areas.FFXV’s environments are not as varied or engrossing. It’s pretty, though.

    They wanted to make it easy for first timers/casual gamers, but also make it in depth for hardcore players, ending up with a clunky battle system that tries to be both at once on every difficulty (See Nier: Automata for how it’s better at doing it. Easy mode gives you plug-in chips that you can put in to make it for casual gamers, or you can play Easy mode without them), with abysmal AI and no control over their actions (such as settings, like Tales of * does) and can’t even use items unless you tell them to/give them accessories to do so. Even FFXIII gave you some modicum of control over your AI controlled allies (change paradigms), while FFXII allowed you to customize their AI entirely. Don’t get me started on how horrid the camera is. Especially when fighting large monsters or in/around bushes. Large monster in small area? I’ve only seen the camera freak out so much in a few games.

    Story was presented disjointed with events that should have no impact (Everything that happens with Luna in Altissia, as well as what happens to Ignis), having none, because you didn’t get to know them and/or they happened offscreen. Characters drop off the face of the earth (Cor, for example. Iris, a main character’s SISTER, is just mentioned after the timeskip. Cindy is also nowhere to be found, even though the base is Hammerhead at the end of the game), and/or become inconsistent or just downright stupid (Gladio). Lots of things went unanswered/unexplained (Umbra’s ability to have the party travel through time seems like it’d be something really useful!), and we were left with more questions than answers.

    Important story bits are relegated to Kingsglaive (like you wouldn’t know who the fuck was the fourth person hanging in Ardyn’s throne room because he’s NEVER MENTIONED IN THE GAME), Brotherhood, NPC conversations you can miss, as well as stuff you have to find and read in the late-game gameplay shift from action-RPG to survival horror, where it wasn’t even survival horror. The enemies weren’t threatening, and they were easy to kill if you were discovered, especially if you’d practiced blink dodging (Infinite MP while the enemy gets damaged) or hoarded ethers/elixirs for the entire game.

    I could go on and on about the flaws of this game and how it BARELY manages to pull itself out of 13’s shadow. It’s “better”, yes but don’t kid yourself: If you or anyone else considers 13 as the lowest point in the (single player) series, this is just slightly above it. In a lot of ways it’s a step back, and the game was pulled in too many directions to please a lot of people as well as just generally being a rushed, clunky mess that spent years in development time, then was cobbled together in the last 3-4 years. They were making changes/additions right up until the official release.

    I enjoyed the game. I really did. Enough to spend 100+ hours in it. And I’ll probably play it again if their free updates are good. But I can recognize the flaws, and that compared to other games in FF as whole (FFXII does world better, party AI the best, since you can customize actions and their priotities, FF Type-0 does action combat better, and even let you control how many characters, each with different combat styles), it’s middling. And then compare it to other action RPGs (Tales of *, beats the living snot out of it in general, with AI settings and action combat). I’ve had more fun with the combat of the Nier: Automata demo than the combat throughout the entirety of FFXV.

    I hope that the devs of 16 (or 15-2) are more focused, because if they build on what this game had, and improve on it, they could genuinely bring FF back to its proper hayday, gameplay wise. Or even if they took notes from Nier Automata, that’d be fun.

    But they’re rolling in money (FFXV fastest selling FF) and there’s talk of changing scenes in the FF7 remake to prevent outrage, so I don’t think they care.

  • J.K.

    THANK YOU. I actually made an account just to comment on this. FF7 is lucky to be a top 3 FF game. X has a better pure story, VI is just flat out better all around, and I would argue VIII is even marginally better (although I can admittedly at least see people’s gripes with not including VIII in their top 3).

    People only like VII because Cloud and Sephiroth are the “cool” characters to like. While the overall idea of the story that is laid out is a really awesome one, the gameplay and battle system of 7 just isn’t very good. It’s pretty much the only one where the gameplay was slightly behind its time (very minimal changes from the previous couple games).

    VII is a great game. Fantastic. But absolutely NOT the best game ever, or even FF game ever.

  • Ricardo

    Post game? It had quite a few challenges for me…not “prepare to die” challenges..but “I have to try a few times” challenges…I finished the game 100% at 210 hours.

  • Link Xero

    i finished it at 60-ish hours (taking out iddle time, wich in my case was a lot).
    The most annoying one was probably costlemark or steyliff that was like 100 floors. and had like 20 or so tonberrys, that was a time dump also i dont get why people hate the psychomancers, they are super easy and i dont even have lmit break, actually the only 3 monsters in the whole game that i actually ran from were red giants, tonberrys and those god damm necromancers from the hunt, other than that magic or armiger and you are good to go.

  • Ricardo

    steyliff was hell, I started it late at night not knowing how long it would be…took me until 6 am (plus, I was low on items making it a lot more “come one”….it got to the point I started using the black hood to make sure I wouldnt die.

    Castlemark was a piece of cake save for the giants which kept killing my stupid teamates…the fireproof suit made the dragon REALLY easy.
    Without it it may have been a lot harder not being able to heal(Save for spells)

    The hunts took a long time to complete…they should have a “!” on the map signaling there are new hunts available…

    some fishes also took me a long time (like the liege) since I wasnt level 10 at fishing by then.

    oh..that lvl 120 boss game me trouble…had to use a load of items..fraking one shooting mf.

  • Peter Boksic

    Clearly a final fantasy nuthugger. witcher 3 graphics blow this away. play it and see. is suspect you may be dimwitted and refuse to recognise the truth. the game took like ten years to develop and its clear it isnt optimised for current consoles.

  • Link Xero

    i did not even had the black hood for any of the menace quest so, that was god damm awefull, oddly enough it wasnt the 4 giants that annoyed me, since i just went balistic with the blizzaga so it took me 3 spells maybe 4, the one that really anoyed me were the las 4 or so floors with the god damm spiders, fucking christ, every tonberry took a piece of my soul with them, god dam green rats and honestly the final bosses from each dungeon were extremely easy compared to the road before them.
    Hunts (other than those fucking necromancers) were meh.
    You dont need to be lvl 10 for the liege or the like, i did it when i was lvl 8 and i saw some one do it when he was lvl 4, and yes that nagflar was an interesting fight, the reward not so much, almost like the hunters badge.

  • KTO

    I’m playing chapter 13 now and it’s not bad. Just play it and you’ll get the replay the game when they do major updates. Get both perspectives.

  • Denis Kreynin

    Chapter 13 is never going to be “fixed” because it’s not broken. The whole complaint isn’t that chapter 13 is messed up. The whole complaint is that the director made poor design choices in making chapter 13 what it is. It’s just boring. There’s nothing “wrong” with it. No glitches. No bugs. It’s just an annoying chapter.

  • Kent Wreckless Morgan

    Is all the end game content such as adamantoise, legendary weapons, and end game dungeons accessible in new game plus? or do you have to finish the game and venture back into your end game save file? i went into new game plus anyway because i wanted more level progression (currently sitting around lvl 70 for all of my team) but if i wanted to can i start the end game content?

  • Martian Wong

    What new cut scenes?

  • Pierrot.

    Just shows you never even played the game retard.

  • Disagreement? Hell no. You’re wrong….. it’s as simple as that. Let’s look at the facts………. yeah, ok, I can’t even pretend to troll or be a dick here. Plus it’s 19 days later and who would troll days days later? At the end of the day, “better” or “ratings” don’t matter too much. A 6 vs. an 8 or a 10 means little. It comes down to “did I have fun playing it” and that’s all that matters. Far too often are people caught up in ranking games and look and nuances. That said, I suppose rankings give us an indication of the likelihood that I/you/whomever will like or dislike a game.

    I think the real beef I have with FF15 is that it does feel like they were put on a deadline and didn’t quite get the time to sew everything together. You get this disjointed feeling at times like there should have been more or they wanted a something to be bigger but never quite got the time…. or they moved something along faster than they wanted to. Certain sections seem really polished while others seem rushed. In the end, I loved it but felt it could been much more at the same time.

  • Boston John

    Well that certainly stinks, yeah i myself just forced myself to get used to it and 3 different control settings yet every single one = x is kinda crazy

  • Dylan Harris

    Its not bad. Its just different. You might not like it, or you might. I enjoyed it for the most part.

  • Dylan Harris

    How does the pacing not make sense? It had a sense of urgency the rest of the game didn’t have. I loved it.

  • Dylan Harris

    This is the best ff in years. Screw the overhyped ff 7 remake.